Sir Tim kicks crew transport arse...

[The Outlaw]

It seems Sir Tim spent some time the other day at the arrivals level observing the disaster which is the daily event of trying to get a car to take you home.

Evidently he had asked the ESVP-CCC-ED (Executive Senior Vice President- Crew Car Coordinator-Exterior Division or just "Outside guy with the clipboard" why there was a sea of cars but no drivers. The ESVP-CCC-ED without knowing it was STC, told this "random man" that he was "too busy to answer questions now" (despite having no drivers to coordinate)....We won't be seeing him around any more!

Interestingly, the car service has been fantastic the past few days!

If you are going to tell your boss to "shove off", it's probably a good idea to have another job lined up!

NOW....if we can just get him to visit the leave planners and schedulers.

[Kamelchaser]

Well there's a turn up for the books....this is the first time in many years I've heard a story about the boss taking a personal interest in what's happening on the coal face.

If it's true, it might be a step forward. Getting out there and actually talking to a worker, be it pilot, a grade two, a driver or a cargo loader, would certainly help a senior manager understand what the real issues are...because it's quite clear middle management hide the real story from our bosses.

It'll be interesting to see if any real changes occur, or, as is more likely, a few temporary band aids will be applied by the mid level managers to save face.

[170to5]

Outlaw

Can we ask where you heard this from? I'm pretty sceptical...

[falconeasydriver]

When you have individuals more concerned with arse covering, job protection and of course enforcing their own particular caste system, change will be difficult to implement. It was the usual cluster fcuk earlier today.

[airarabia]

Has anyone else experienced the inconsiderate street like attitude by the so called Elite professionals?
Those Pilots who pay no attention to the ones in the queue waiting for their turn to pick a coupon at peak times but rather jump ahead of others from the sides pretending as not being seen.
Happened to a friend of a friend a few times!

[Dirigible]

It was pretty awful getting a car this morning. Also sceptical of this story (especially as no improvement). Same co-ordinator outside being dismissive of pilots who had been patiently waiting inside.

[TineeTim]

Is this the same Sir who gets on the aircraft, sits down, closes his privacy screen and then immediately exits after landing without a word to any of the crew? That guy was looking in to a lack of drivers during the 0600 rush hour? Right......

[6000PIC]

If getting a car / crew transport is as difficult , uncoordinated and haphazard as has been implied , then it simply shows just how out of touch " Sir Tim " really is , and that further mismanagement in any component part of EK can only be assumed and expected. These people surround themselves with " cling-ons " that tell them how great they are , how sound their decisions are and in effect shield them from the reality of " facts on the ground " as it were. Keep it up " Sir Tim " , your inability to manage is slowly becoming obvious to all.

[General Dogsbody]

His time might be better served seeing can he get us our roster in time..

[SOPS]

Or a roster that does not involve 92 hours every month.

[thegypsy]

With a name like Tim what do you expect:confused:

[Am NOT Sure]

He was probably lost and wanted to hire one of the cars to find his car

[kingpost]

This post sounds like a wind-up, the man is too important to deal with those sort of issues. If this were true he'd be looking at a very tired workforce instead!!

[SuckItUp]

"Has anyone else experienced the inconsiderate street like attitude by the so called Elite professionals?
Those Pilots who pay no attention to the ones in the queue waiting for their turn to pick a coupon at peak times but rather jump ahead of others from the sides pretending as not being seen.
Happened to a friend of a friend a few times!"



You ignoramus...those people aren't being rude arrogant self inflated mercenary pilots, it's cultural!........

[BYMONEK]

There may be some truth in it. F/O I just flew with had operated with a Captain who'd had the pleasure of STC on his flight. 40 minutes chatting about many issues, most of which our boss was unaware of.

If true, the filtering process at DSVP level has been mightily effective. I guess time will tell.

[coffindodger]

We all know how Sir Tim is a very busy man these days, for me as a SLF.
I would have thought he would have read this site every once in a while, just to keep his finger on the pulse, so to speak.
Even if only for a couple of times or maybe 10 minutes per day.:):)

[The Outlaw]

170 t 5

It came from one of the people working the transport desk, I heard the same rumor and just asked them.

[170to5]

Thanks Outlaw, still sceptical but nice to know where the gen's come from.

[767200]

Not a rumor. Was there and saw it myself. As reported...

[TineeTim]

Wow. Humbly retract my previous. Sincerely hope it is a sign of things to come- Fingers crossed and hats off to the good 'Sir'.

[CoinOfSilenceII]

He was there. Was he there to have a look at the fatigue waiting pilots?
I don´t think so. He wanted to know why there are so many Lexus cars.
Some months ago, someone decided to reduce the Volvo fleet by 30 cars to
save a few DHS a day. In peak time you need the Lexus to cover the peak. It costs a little bit more than the saving. Finally someone found it out. Welcome Tomorrow.

[BigGeordie]

CoinOfScilence, that is the version I heard. I would have thought TC would have better things to occupy his time than crew transport but there you go, maybe this is a sign of senior management being more in touch with what is happening on the lower floors.

[junglie-driver]

Whole heartedly agree with Fack5. Lexus experience was very refreshing. No need for Sturgeron anti-motion tablets before getting in. No need to monitor the rear view mirror to see if the driver is actually awake whilst cruising at 120kmph... Didn't fear for my life at all in the Lexus. It'll never catch on

[halas]

One Lexus driver told me on the way to DWC that the EK drivers get 1200DHM a month pay.
They leave as soon as they can to drive taxis as that is much better in pay and tips.
Must say that sitting in the flash Toyota listening to funky house music at 140Km/h on the 611 with a skilled driver was bliss. I was home in half the time.

halas

ps Agree with the motion sickness. Speedo needle rises...foot off peddle. Speedo needle falls...foot on peddle. Repeat.

[Am NOT Sure]

That was actually funny Halas

[XTurb]

Regarding airarabia's comment: Perhaps we could try and queue on the left and then when we have registered stand clear to the right. So that it's clear who is waiting for what. That's what I try and do although it doesn't always work.

[lospilotos]

Regarding airarabia's comment: Perhaps we could try and queue on the left and then when we have a ticket stand clear to the right. So that it's clear who is waiting for what. That's what I try and do although it doesn't always work.

Second that!

[abZorbatheleak]

I was told, independently, by two separate duty co-ordinators that Sir T was cut-off by one of the Lexus drivers on his way to work and came to enquire as to what they were doing at EGHQ. Needless to say no more Lexus Limo/Taxis, only "official" vehicles in and around the EGHQ. So for the next 2 months, until more Audi's can be ordered, its going to be a bit chaotic for us. Alas, no great humanitarian effort on his part for this who thought there was a legitimate concern for our wellbeing. :{

[Calmcavok]

Nope, I've been in a Lexus since this debacle (just a couple of days ago), but this time it was a black one! Problem solved.

[uba737]

Took a white Lexus to EGHQ Sunday night!

[JAARule]

If necessary they'll use the lexus to get you to work. But getting you home 11hrs later at 0700? Who gives a f**k... stand in line, slave!

[givemewings]

Am told that as a result of said visit (in which no one lost their job, btw) that adjustments were made to the required number of cars to be added, in effect extra to what was already asked for. I won't give the exact number but it was to make up for cars leaving and extra on top to cope with demand. Change to be seen from April onwards apparently.


Source: very credible

[fatbus]

Is there more midnight arrivals? Or 6am ? Don't think they need anymore cars just less driver on a break.
Who has walked out the door to see 40/50 cars and no drivers.?

[CaptainChipotle]

I also love the AUTOMATIC wait in the car for 5 minutes while you're being told one more is coming...

If I didn't raise my voice and mention 5 minutes on the clock I'd sit there until another pilot came through the door going to the same area.

[kotakota]

Big airline now .....is size still important ?

[BigGeordie]

Don't worry, once everybody is at Maydan and they put those big white labourers' buses on instead the problem will be solved!:E

[Mister Warning]

Save me a window seat Big!