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Ian Corrigible
1st Dec 2014, 15:01
From Jane's Defence Weekly:

Indian Army wives campaign to get Chetak, Cheetahs taken out of service (http://www.janes.com/article/46255/indian-army-wives-campaign-to-get-chetak-cheetahs-taken-out-of-service)

A group of Indian Army officers' wives have demanded that the Army Aviation Corps (AAC) stop using its fleet of obsolete Chetak (Aerospatiale Alouette III) and Cheetah (Aerospatiale SA315B Lama) helicopters due to their high accident rate.

The 28-strong Indian Army Wives Agitation Group - all of whom are married to AAC pilots or technicians assigned to these two platforms - claim that 191 of the helicopters have crashed over the past two decades, killing 294 officers.

"Every time officers go on a sortie on either of these helicopters, their families are on tenterhooks," group head Meenal Bhosale told IHS Jane's on 25 November by phone from Nashik, western India. "And each time they land safely it's like they have been given a new lease of life," added Bhosale, whose husband is an AAC engineering officer.

The group was formed on 2 October, the day after a Cheetah crashed in north India, killing two pilots and an engineer on board. It has created an online petition demanding the two helicopters' withdrawal from service that has received 20,000 signatures in support.

The group has petitioned Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the Ministry of Defence to retire the about 120 Chetaks and Cheetahs still in service. Most are deployed to sustain Indian Army formations in the Himalayas.

However, senior AAC officers said they had no alternative but to continue operating the platforms, which entered service in the mid-1960s, for another 4-5 years until replacements were acquired.

India finally put the replacement LUH/RSH program out of its misery in August (http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/defence-ministry-scraps-rs-6000-cr-tender-for-light-utility-helicopters/article1-1257907.aspx) after over 15 years of dithering, choosing to launch a new effort to buy a theoretical home-grown product (http://www.defensenews.com/article/20141013/DEFREG03/310130036/India-Tries-New-Tack-Troubled-Helo-Program) in lieu of the 407, AS550, AW119 or Ka-226. So those Chetaks & Cheetahs are likely to remain in service for some time yet.

I/C

misterbonkers
1st Dec 2014, 18:03
But is it actually a problem with the aircraft itself? Would the accident/death rate have been comparable or worse!) if they had been using a different aircraft?

It's so easy to blame an airframe when actually other factors are the cause.

Gemini Twin
1st Dec 2014, 19:39
It's not the airframe, although taking care of the old Turbomecas must be difficult. More like training for the conditions. The home grown Drhuv has had it's share of accidents too.

ecureilx
2nd Dec 2014, 08:34
In terms of percentage, the loss is extremely low I guess ... :O

maybe the husbands should stop flying, for a start ? Maybe they will be safe that way :ouch:

the conditions the Cheetahs operate are places not much other options exist, I guess

prehar
4th Dec 2014, 04:11
The loss of machines has been high since most accidents don't get posted on western news media ... A version of the Ecureil was likely to be the top contender many years ago but no machine was finally bought ...making a new machine will take ages and since time is of essence it'll be great if the Indian Military picks a light helicopter quickly for co - production . This seems the most likely direction that the solution is moving towards .... till then these Army wives have to just protest on all forms of the media !!