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airwave45
13th Nov 2014, 14:32
Anyone got a map showing what the changes actually are ?
How much airspace does Inverness now have ?
Is there a class E between Inverness and (well, anywhere south of it)
What levels is it at and where ?

The reference document is all lat/longs, a map would have taken less time and been easier to read.

Cheers

NorthSouth
13th Nov 2014, 17:08
Don't know what document you've been looking at but charts are in AIP ENR Section 6. You'll find the new ones here (http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadbasic/pamslight-A2A0078D35C1B6724275D7987725EEB7/7FE5QZZF3FXUS/EN/AMDT/AD_GEN_ENR/AIRAC/012-2014/EG_Amdt_A_2014_12a_en_2014-11-13.pdf). Best chart to look at is the one at ENR 6-1-4-1.

Inverness doesn't have any controlled airspace (yet).

Crash one
13th Nov 2014, 17:58
The only bit of class E seems to be to the north and west of the Glasgow area. 4000-6000 & 3000-6000. Nothing north of that. Inverness is in class G.

xrayalpha
13th Nov 2014, 18:30
Didn't you give your feedback to the extensive consultation?

Or are you a starving mushroom like the rest of us? (kept in the dark and not even fed b*llsh1t)

All the details are on the new chart out today.

Slightly ironic, the CAA were going to get rid of all Class E airspace.

Now they've got rid of Glass F and replaced it with....... super-enhanced Class E.

So we used to have seven airspace classifications, and now we have eight with E and E+!!!

Aaaargh!

You cannot make this up.

wb9999
13th Nov 2014, 19:36
The new class E airways in the north of Scotland (including Inverness) are showing on SkyDemon after today's chart update, but most appear to be at 9,500+ ft and a small amount at 5,500 and 7,500 ft. I wouldn't expect them to have a big impact on GA.

airwave45
13th Nov 2014, 22:10
Effectively cuts Scotland in half for wave flights, dropping below FL95 has a decent chance of dropping you out of the wave.
Right in the boonies.
Adds risk for no good reason.

Mind you, all those gliders fitted with Mode S transponders (and the batteries to run the things) will have no issues with this . . .

:ugh:

BabyBear
13th Nov 2014, 22:22
wb9999, given the restricted area, R610, goes to 5000' it doesn't give much of a margin in certain areas, more so as the actual pressure is further from STD.

BB

wb9999
13th Nov 2014, 22:35
BB, there is a 6 miles section of Class E on the western edge of R610 with a base of is 5,500 ft. The remainder of airway Y906 across R610A has a base of 9,500 ft.