LN F-15 down...

[Rhino power]

An F-15(D?) from Lakenheath appears to have gone down, one crewman aboard who appears to have ejected safely...
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Shock as F15 plane crashes into Lincolnshire field | Grimsby Telegraph (http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Shock-F15-plane-crashes-Lincolnshire-field/story-23063181-detail/story.html)

BBC News - USAF F-15 jet crashes in Lincolnshire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-29544064)

[cldrvr]

From Lakenheath? No further details.

[Dysonsphere]

BBC reporting pilot is safe no further news yet

[DaveReidUK]

Pilot reportedly OK.

BBC News - Military jet crashes in Lincolnshire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-29544064)

[Typhoon93]

Glad no one was hurt.

[lifter191]

Just to confirm F-15 crashed just outside Weston Hills, Nr Spalding... I saw Pilot and WSO eject safely and come down about 1 mile north of the village

[G-ARVH]

Aircraft down in Weston Hills area of Lincolnshire - Picture on this Twitter link...




https://twitter.com/NewsLine247/media

[Linedog]

AFAIK the F15D is a 2 seater. The news says the pilot escaped, but no news of another crewman. It may be the F15c which i think is a single seater.
I stand by to be corrected.

[CaptainSox]

BBC report Pilot believed to have ejected safely. Fingers crossed though.

BBC News - USAF F-15 jet crashes in Lincolnshire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-29544064)

[doyll]

Have a couple friends who are X-fighter pilots. Ejecting is not a "safe" thing to be doing under the best of conditions .. but it beats the alternative. ;)

[Courtney Mil]

The F-15D is the two-seat version of the C. The rear seat does not have to be occupied. It's the instructor's seat, or as I usually used it, the place to take my buddies flying. It may not have been occupied in this case.

Here's hoping all is well.

[advocatusDIABOLI]

Courtney,


The rear seat gives you a better view of the Viper taking that final bit of pre-terminate lead!! :D


Advo (Is There a FC in the house?)

[pohm1]

BBC Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-29544064)

At least he managed to miss the school.

[Flightmech]

Saw one flying around earlier as BALLS11. Apt call sign if this was the F-15 concerned.

[KPax]

Just watched an eye witness who saw the crash, he describes the ac coming down tail first in a spin with one of the wings landing in a separate field. He also describes two chutes. As a non aircrew type does the tail first spinning mean anything apart from OMG.

[advocatusDIABOLI]

Spin? 2 Chutes?


D Model, with 2 pilots. (Both OK Hopefully)?
Structural failure?
Mid Air- Other a/c lands?


Who Knows? Anything possible. But, the photos show the two tails and engines intact, so must have been a relatively slow speed impact..... I guess.

[barnstormer1968]

Pohm1

I initially thought your school comment was sarcasm until I read the article.

Getting 'school' into the very first sentence is the kind of thing the journalist should have done for a bet :)

Glad the outcome seems positive so far.

[Just This Once...]

http://www.jetwashaviationphotos.com/siteimages/86-0182%20Lakenheath%2010-5-12.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78095000/jpg/_78095892_tpcrash2.jpg

[advocatusDIABOLI]

OK, we know the jet. F15D


Lakenheath have said 'The Pilot is Safe and Well'


The crash pics show the left nozzle closed (Dry Range on F100 series) and the right Open, which might suggest engine problems?


Still, it's all speculation. Everyone is alive, and will be home for a late tea.

[Narrow Runway]

Remaining 4 flew over Histon, Cambs, at about 3:40 pm today. Flew in a "Missing Man" V formation, headed West to East towards Lakenheath.

[911Truth]

Really hope the pilot landed safely which if using a Martin Baker seat, almost 100% guaranteed.
On a positive note, that's one less killing machine to be used against innocent civilians that the US is in the practice of mistaking as 'Terrorists' or even 'Blue on Blue' mistaken Identity kills', one less out of the Rothschild's arsenal,

[Dash8driver1312]

911, maybe it was even the exact same aircraft that fired the hologram missile that made everyone think it was an airliner on that fateful day???

Dear lord, forgive him for he knows not what he does...

[Golf-Mike-Mike]

From Sky News:-
A spokesman for USAF's 48 Fighter Wing based at RAF Lakenheath in Suffolk confirmed one of its F-15s was involved in the incident during a training exercise.
He added: "The pilot ejected and is safe."

[EGNH Flyer]

The F15 doesn't use a Martin Baker seat. F-15, F16, A-10 etc use the ACES II produced by United Technologies Aerospace Systems (UTAS).

[Lima Juliet]

911

Sorry to feed your trolling but plenty more in the boneyard to replace this one...:ok:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/H-44/Modern%20Aircraft%20US/PHOTOSHOPTheBoneyard2F4F14F15.jpg

Unlucky, sonny!

LJ

[advocatusDIABOLI]

All,


The ACES II seat is excellent, and has a fantastic survival record. Just watch the Thunderbirds mishap at Mountain Home on youtube to see it's capabilities in action!


Interestingly, MB incorporated some of the ACES II system features into the Mk 16 seat for Typhoon and F35.


Advo

[West Coast]

I'm sure somewhere there's some Iranian AF mx official drooling over the F-14's forward of the Eagles.

[G-CPTN]

He also describes two chutes
One for the seat after separation?

[Valiantone]

Presumably the second seat they saw would have been the drogue chute on the bang seat?

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[just another jocky]

On a positive note, that's one less killing machine to be used against innocent civilians....

On a more positive note, it was an air-to-air fighter, so wasn't used for killing innocent civilians, but don't let that get in the way of your "Truth".

On an even more positive note; are you for real?

[Madbob]

LeonJ

Every time I see a post of ac in the boneyard it make me wonder why we don't preserve our own "retired" aircraft. As it is all our Jags, Harriers and more recently F3 and GR4 Tornados taken out of service either get reduced for spares or sold for scrap. No hope for maintaining a reserve fleet or an attrition reserve.
We never seem to learn from history....how many WWII ac saw service in Korea, and ditto Korean War ac featuring in action in Viet Nam.

MB

[barnstormer1968]

911truth

Don't wory about other posters mocking you.
I think it brilliant that we live in a free country where you and I are free to say what we want without state reprisal.

It's a shame you might not be recognising that the armed forces who protect us are partly responsible for our freedom and continued use of the a English language, but luckily they continue to protect you and me even if you don't appreciate it.

[Valiantone]

Madbob

Sadly we don't have any desert like conditions to store aircraft out in the open here. And not enough airfields to store them either (well not anymore). Mind you I do have a rather crumpled large print of High Ercall after WW2 with quite a few airframes on it....

All the F.3s that went into RTP were stripped for spares (which is generally a good thing cost wise) GR.4s are following slowly.

Although hopefully a lot slower given the trouble that DAVE is having. And the fact that it, (Tornado) is busy in several places now.

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[PeregrineW]

On a positive note, that's one less killing machine to be used...

Tsk tsk, surely you mean "one fewer killing machine"...

Still, what do you expect from a Porsche driver?:=

[staplefordheli]

Barnstormer
911truth

Don't wory about other posters mocking you.
I think it brilliant that we live in a free country where you and I are free to say what we want without state reprisal.

It's a shame you might not be recognising that the armed forces who protect us are partly responsible for our freedom and continued use of the a English language, but luckily they continue to protect you and me even if you don't appreciate it.




Excellent put down if I may say :ok:


Glad it appears to be just a bit of machinery damage and nothing worse
it did say they would be over this side of the country for a bit this week in the local papers
F-15 Eagles carry out combat training over Stamford - Rutland Times (http://www.rutland-times.co.uk/news/local/f-15-eagles-carry-out-combat-training-over-stamford-1-6342706)


Two Americanjets are carrying out combat training in the skies above Stamford and Peterborough today (7 October).

The F-15 Eagles from the 493s Fighter Squadron USAF are based at RAF Lakenheath.
They would normally practise their basic fighting manoeuvres over the sea, but due to the poor weather they are instead flying inland.
An RAF spokesman said the planes would be in the area for two to three days and would not be flying below 4,000ft.
The spokesman said the planes may seem lower, but that was due to their size. They have a wingspan of 42ft and are 63ft 9in long.


The F-15s will not be landing at RAF Wittering.

[MSOCS]

..and those 9 inches of length certainly make all the difference!

[cornish-stormrider]

Point one, the grobag wearing interface unit between seat and stick got out....
Point two, hope said grobag is ok, not too banged up.....

Point three, salutory lesson EJECT IN TIME...

As to some of the replies.... MR Truth, before coming on a public forum get your facts right to avoid looking like an arse.....

To the others please stop baiting the pond life...

[P6 Driver]

Hoping the crew of the F-15 are OK, but I bet "911truth" is at his window watching for a blacked out van with funny aerials on the roof as I write, while wearing a hat made of tin foil for some strange anti-alien abduction reason.
Wibble.

[A2QFI]

There were doing ACT in the (Closed) Cottesmore overhead this morning.

[sandiego89]

Or from the outward canted tail fins, it could be a super secret Silent Eagle....:}

[glad rag]

with one of the wings landing in a separate field.

:hmm: gotta wonder about that bit....more airframe fatigue issues coming to light??

[Willard Whyte]

Or from the outward canted tail fins, it could be a super secret Silent Eagle....

Not that secret!

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8219/boeingsilenteagleedited.jpg

[connoisseur]

Both crew out safely, last seen supping tea in nearby house

[Rhino power]

Both crew out safely, last seen supping tea in nearby house

Interesting, especially considering there was only a pilot onboard...

-Dazza

[ZeBedie]

Mind you I do have a rather crumpled large print of High Ercall after WW2 with quite a few airframes on it....

I'd love to see that. Any chance of scanning and posting on the history forum?

[Rossian]

......you're lagging a bit aren't you? Why has no-one posted a TAF or METAR for the area and time of the incident? You'd be drummed out of R&N for a failure like that.

The Ancient Mariner

(creeps away to remove tongue from cheek)

[Typhoon93]

On a positive note, that's one less killing machine to be used against innocent civilians that the US is in the practice of mistaking as 'Terrorists' or even 'Blue on Blue' mistaken Identity kills', one less out of the Rothschild's arsenal,

You clearly don't like the Armed Forces, so why are you even looking on a forum that is military related?

[wg13_dummy]

You clearly don't like the Armed Forces, so why are you even looking on a forum that is military related?

Looking for cock?

[diginagain]

You clearly don't like the Armed Forces, so why are you even looking on a forum that is military related? That's the thing about 'democracy'...

[Typhoon93]

That's the thing about 'democracy'...

True, but I can't see why anybody would waste their time on a part of a website that is about something that they so strongly disagree with. Unless of course, they had no interest in the subject at all and just want to get a rise out of people, which this individual seems to have done quite successfully tonight!

[Valiantone]

ZeBedie

Unfortunately It would have to be scanned in sections if I did it..

I will have a look tomorrow

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[Coltishall. loved it]

It’s the weirdo teenager who hasn’t been out of his room for ages, just ignore

[Tashengurt]

I thought 51 posts was a lot even for a squished Eagle. Then I saw the reason. Some small village somewhere missing its idiot.


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[Tashengurt]

Hmm. BBC reports that the a/c flew on for "a good mile" following the ejection.
They make it sound as though it was trundling along by itself for hours rather than just descending less than vertically.


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[911Truth]

You'll meet your Boss one day, He might say "Well done, good and faithful servant"

[Willard Whyte]

Some small village somewhere missing its idiot.

Not missing, Newark.

[Genstabler]

Just learned that pupils at Weston Hills Primary School have made a get-well card for the 48 Fighter Wing pilot, a lovely gesture.

[54Phan]

West Coast, most, if not all of those F-14s are scrap now. The shredders and smelters worked overtime. For those to whom such things matter, the aircraft involved was the last F-15D delivered to the U.S.A.F.

[exhorder]

I'm glad the pilot got out safely!

@MadBob: After the Cold War ended, the German AF and Navy put one Tornado each into storage at AMARC. It was part of a trial to determine whether storing all the aircraft that were phased out at the time was a viable option.

However, although the preserved aircraft remained in very good condition and could easily be restored to flying status, all the various updates and small changes that the rest of the fleet had meanwhile went through rendered those two Tonkas useless, for all intents and purposes. Effectively, their only remaining use was as a source for spares, and this could be achieved without storing entire aircraft.

Interestingly, the French still put most of their withdrawn aircraft in storage at Châteaudun Air Base. Sorry for being off topic.

[Tashengurt]

You'll meet your Boss one day, He might say "Well done, good and faithful servant"

Actually, I'm ok with that. It's called the social contract and it beats fighting for every meal.


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[Wander00]

"Thanks" to school kids, brilliant gesture

[Al R]

However, although the preserved aircraft remained in very good condition and could easily be restored to flying status, all the various updates and small changes that the rest of the fleet had meanwhile went through rendered those two Tonkas useless, for all intents and purposes.

Genuine question - why would they be useless? Is it because we cannot (institutionally) see beyond any form of technical obsolescence? I'm certain that a sqn of Tornado GR4 al 1.3 could work quite effectively independently from a sqn of Tornado GR4 al 1.9. And if immediately not realisable, surely a cost benefit analysis to make it happen could be justified? A number of jets a year or two behind the tech drag curve at Akrotiri might make the difference right now between achieving (potentially priceless) political objectives.. and not.

[exhorder]

@Al R: You're certainly right if we're talking about a "doomsday" scenario. However, having a rather limited military threat in conventional terms, the maintenance costs of having several small sub-fleets are simply prohibitive.

[Above The Clouds]

911Truth

Do your parents know that you fiddling with the key board again ?

[paully]

911 is yet another of those museli munching liberal types that never could find the courage required to defend the land of their birth, that they now so strongly despise. Probably spent all their lives in Social work or lecturing :*

[MightyGem]

911, a bit cheesy, but it gets to the point:
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Col Jessop, "A Few Good Men"

[Navy_Adversary]

Weston Hills school pupils received bravery awards after yesterdays USAF F-15 crash in the area.
BBC News - Weston Hills pupils get bravery awards after F-15 crash (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-29558955)

[MightyGem]

Just come across this on Facebook:
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10372780_10152406373777043_9129051289926910574_n.jpg?oh=1939 9319ecc09289aff8e1fed771e670&oe=54BEAF4B

[paully]

Real wit...LOL...many times over :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Typhoon93]

BBC News - US Air Force F-15 jet crash prompts safety fears (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-29547844)

[Dysonsphere]

Re Mighty Gem "they forgot about the poor rabbits burned to death by the infidels"

[orca]

Genuinely enthralled by the jet that has raised fears over dogfighting (their words) over built up areas - by coming down in a field. I must be missing something.

Very much enjoyed the eyewitness who testified that in her mind "this was not a controlled crash"...blistering insight.

[Valiantone]

Well I suppose some of the population are likely to have a few complaints, after this, it probably did scare the **ap out of them, although its not an every day occurrence these days.

There was a couple on Look North demanding something be done about it

From memory the only accident in that part of Lincolnshire has been the pair of Tornado F.3s near the Digby area in January 96 and the Harrier GR.7 near Heckington in 1993.

Pleased the pilot made a safe landing, even if he had to do via a parachute.

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[Courtney Mil]

She saw the F-15D come down and said it was "pure luck rather than judgement" that it did not hit houses and the school.

Hero pilot battles with stricken aircraft to save school.

"From what I saw that was not a controlled crash," she said.

No ****, Sherlock. Must have been one of those uncontrolled ones, then.

"That plane was completely out of control and wasn't manned for the last mile it was flying.

Ah, that would explain it. She needs to apply for a job with the AAIB.

"When it lands so close to a school and so close to houses, that, for me, is a major concern.

Oh, hang on. I thought she said it crashed. Still, an operation of this size, bound to be a few losses. I should have been an RAF spokesman.

[orca]

I had always been led to believe that time and probability were related, and things that happen in the past are actually certainties. It's therefore impossible to accurately surmise what might have happened when something else actually did.

[Tay Cough]

From memory the only accident in that part of Lincolnshire has been the pair of Tornado F.3s near the Digby area in January 96 and the Harrier GR.7 near Heckington in 1993.

Plus a couple of Reds accidents in 87 and 88 (Welton and Scampton in fairness so a little further north). One fatal sadly.

[El Grifo]

Courtney Mil, temepered by the subsequent statement,

""I was looking at the site this morning and thinking if the pilot had tried landing the plane where he did he couldn't have picked a better spot because it missed everything.

"But he didn't put it there, it was just chance."

El G.

[Valiantone]

Cheers

Tay Cough, I was indeed generally referring to the Spalding/Sleaford area

Thinking about it a bit more, there was another Harrier around there in 1999, at Surfleet IIRC

I do remember the accident to I.. ... I 1988 and the footage on TV with the Lightning flypast over Binbrook village church.


That was about the time that the Grimsby RAF careers office failed me for the second time:(

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[Al R]

I hadn't yet been in a month or so when we were all paraded in anticipation of being deployed as crash guards following a mid air collision between a couple of Harriers near Peterborough. Sobering to think that the T4 student, let alone his instructor, would now be safely retired to a desk or civvy street.

[Rhino power]

NutLoose, pm sent, but your inbox is full so you need to do a bit of housekeeping! :ok:

-RP