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ORAC
29th Jul 2014, 16:49
Reaper to be retained - and debate on the update and/or replacement of Typhoon.

Defence News: Reapers To Join UK's Core Equipment Program (http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140729/DEFREG01/307290029/Reapers-Join-UK-s-Core-Equipment-Program)

LONDON — The British Ministry of Defence has confirmed it is to take the Royal Air Force’s fleet of 10 MQ-9 Reapers into its core equipment program following the end of combat operations in Afghanistan.

“The Defence Board recently gave approval for funding to allow the Reaper capability to be maintained until the Scavenger [program] enters service towards the end of the decade; plans for this bridging capability are currently under development,” the government announced July 29 in response to an earlier parliamentary defense committee report on remotely piloted air vehicles.

The government also said in its response to the committee that a national program being undertaken to look at the mix of future combat air requirements from 2030 could include a “new-build manned aircraft.”

The RAF has a fleet of 10 of the General Atomics built Reapers. The first of the machines was delivered to the British in 2007, purchased to meet an urgent operational requirement for intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition and reconnaissance capabilities to support military activities in Afghanistan. The remotely piloted air systems were purchased from a special Treasury reserve and not the MoD’s own budget. The decision to make the equipment a permanent part of RAF’s core equipment program required, amongst other things, changes to funding responsibilities.

The Scavenger program is in the assessment phase. The system is aimed at delivering a sovereign armed remotely piloted air system capability for the UK toward the end of the decade, said the government in its response to the defense committee. A decision on the way forward will likely be taken in the next strategic defense and security review (SDSR) set to take place after the next election in May 2015.

In addition to the Reaper becoming part of the permanent order of battle, the government also laid out its plans for bringing other unmanned air systems into the core program. “Of the existing UAS currently used on operations in Afghanistan by the Army [Hermes 450, Desert Hawk 3, T-Hawk and Black Hornet] it is our intention that the Desert Hawk 3 (http://www.lockheedmartin.co.uk/us/products/desert-hawk.html) and Black Hornet (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/pd100-black-hornet-nano/) are retained,” said the government. A final decision on bringing the systems into the core is expected to be taken by the British Army Investment Board this summer, said the government.

The response from the government also raised the possibility of a new manned aircraft joining the RAF fleet post 2030.

“A two-year national future combat air system (FCAS) program has been launched which aims to inform the forthcoming SDSR on the most appropriate force mix of platforms and systems in order to meet the future combat air requirement from 2030. A unmanned air combat vehicle along the lines of Taranis is one potential element of this force mix, along with an additional buy of Lightning II (F-35), a Typhoon life extension or an alternative new build manned aircraft,” said the government.......

Wander00
29th Jul 2014, 17:01
What's that, a future combat aircraft for when the F35 does not work?...................OK, I give in, hat, coat, Omega at the door.......

BEagle
29th Jul 2014, 18:17
Drone news - who gives a $**t?

:rolleyes:

Cows getting bigger
29th Jul 2014, 18:23
Drone drivers. And probably kids just graduating from primary into big school who think they may want to be a mud-mover.

Mil-26Man
30th Jul 2014, 13:31
From the same report...

UK sets out post-2030 combat aviation force structure - IHS Jane's 360 (http://www.janes.com/article/41309/uk-sets-out-post-2030-combat-aviation-force-structure)

Sandy Parts
30th Jul 2014, 14:54
"Drone news - who gives a $**t?"

er - non-drone drivers who will now have a smaller MoD pot to take from?

ShotOne
31st Jul 2014, 07:45
"-who gives a sh**?" -er, anyone with any interest in the thread topic?

alfred_the_great
31st Jul 2014, 19:20
Drone news - who gives a $**t?

Bitter PAS "mates" who are about going to be made unemployed?

Party Animal
1st Aug 2014, 07:38
Bitter PAS "mates" who are about going to be made unemployed?


I'm neither Reaper or PAS but as I understand it, all F/L PAS aircrew and sqn ldr aircrew upwards will be given to offer to extend to the age of 60 from 1 Apr 15. So other than the SAR helo boys, who exactly are you referring to in the 'going to be made unemployed' comment?

Sandy Parts
1st Aug 2014, 08:28
Party - I've no inside info but as we've not yet seen how SDSR15 will balance the books for these costs, "there may be trouble ahead" to quote the song! I'm guessing aircraft types with diminishing years of service remaining and no current role may be looked at closely in a 'cost vs benefit' way?
Having an offer to extend / being on a 'contract' to 55 / 60 doesn't mean you won't be made redundant if the bean-counters say so. Recent experience directly proves this.