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Heathrow Harry
1st Jul 2014, 14:35
With an election on the horizon and no doubt another series of defence reviewsd (or "cuts" as we called them when I was a lad) what do Ppruners think are the UK's absolutely vital interests?

I'd say the absolute basic minimum is:-

1. Defence of the realm against outsiders

2. Internal security support

3. NATO ops

4. Marine security in the N Atlantic

Important but not vital:-

5. The deterrent

6. the odds and sodds of Empire such as the FI


Not Important:-

Anything E of Suez, anything in Africa, the America's or the Middle East


Thoughts and suggestions welcome - can't see the rabble in Westminster being very happy - they'd like the lot for no cost at all

Genstabler
1st Jul 2014, 15:19
The UK's vital interests are:

1. Maintenance of our independent national sovereignty.
2. Security of our sovereign territory.
3. Safeguarding of our democratic system of government.
4. Protection of our national industrial and economic interests.
5. Enhancing the security, health and quality of life of our population.
6. Protection and improvement of our environment.

NutLoose
1st Jul 2014, 15:51
90% of the population said... Curry, Beer and Football.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
1st Jul 2014, 15:54
What are George Osborne's business friends' Vital Interests?

p.s. Nutloose - the Government is failing big time on at least one of those !

Herod
1st Jul 2014, 15:55
Genstabler. Agree, and suggest:

For 1, we need (I think) the deterrent, and for 4&5, an independent source of energy. (Fracking/nuclear anyone?)

Fox3WheresMyBanana
1st Jul 2014, 15:58
May I suggest that at the root of 3. - 6., and arguably all points, is Education, and the UK is going rapidly downhill on that one.

NutLoose
1st Jul 2014, 16:34
Totally agree Herod, none of the UK's energy companies or utilities should be in foreign hands.., Oil, Gas, Electricity, Nuclear, Water, Rail.

Gemini Twin
1st Jul 2014, 17:48
Where ever did you get the idea that the government is interested in the nations vital interests?

Fox3WheresMyBanana
1st Jul 2014, 17:56
http://www.husky-owners.com/forum/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-6001-0-28986000-1395519968.gif
A Level Government & Politics ?
http://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocuments/GCE%20New%20GCE/UA035236_GCE_Lin_GovPol_Issue_4.pdf
(which shows how crap it is)

Lonewolf_50
1st Jul 2014, 20:12
90% of the population said... Curry, Beer and Football.
What? Fish and Chips did not make the top 3?

Dire times indeed! :eek:

Heathrow Harry
2nd Jul 2014, 08:28
replaced as the National Dish by Chicken Tikka Marsala abort 20 years ago................

Heathrow Harry
2nd Jul 2014, 08:28
"4. Protection of our national industrial and economic interests."

does that have any geographical limit??

Genstabler
2nd Jul 2014, 08:34
Geographical limits? Not politically. If you mean militarily, then of course. We no longer can afford world wide reach.

Willard Whyte
2nd Jul 2014, 23:39
90% of the population said... Curry, Beer and Football.

Count me in the other 10%.

(Chinese, Red Wine, 4-wheeled motorsport)

Roland Pulfrew
3rd Jul 2014, 12:13
90% of the population said... Curry, Beer and Football.

Damn, I'm in the minority as well: Curry, beer and Rugby!

oldpax
3rd Jul 2014, 14:12
should not "population"read citizens?

Genstabler
3rd Jul 2014, 14:36
Not all our population are citizens.

Heathrow Harry
3rd Jul 2014, 16:19
some are Lords

CoffmanStarter
3rd Jul 2014, 16:36
How about republishing the British Empire Map (c. 1897) and then working out how we get all the Pink bits back ... plus a few other places :E

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af162/CoffmanStarter/imagejpg1_zpsc6583306.jpg

Clearly we will need to "invest" significantly in our Armed Services :D ... But with the right "protectorate" acquisitions it could all be self funding :ok:

NutLoose
3rd Jul 2014, 20:58
(Chinese, Red Wine, 4-wheeled motorsport)

Chinese, White Wine and F1 here..

Heathrow Harry
4th Jul 2014, 19:07
"But with the right "protectorate" acquisitions it could all be self funding"

Canada maybe - Oztralia perhaps - the rest just looks like the bottomless pit the Empire was