P.UT or P.U/T or P/UT or P/U.T

[kevkdg]

My AFE log book example page shows P/UT.... But is this the correct abbreviation. What does the slash signify?

[PA28181]

Any of those. It really doesn't matter. A slash in english grammer can mean "or".. I feel sleepy now.

[Genghis the Engineer]

It's a standard shorthand for "worries about the wrong things, still learning about what actually matters".

[Agaricus bisporus]

English "grammer" ??? :ugh:

[PA28181]

Yeh yeh, a typo slash spelling mistook, is it lonely up there on your pedestal?

[Mach Jump]

The convention here has always been 'P u/t'. Short for 'Pilot under training'. The slash has no significance. I don't think we should get too exercised over it though. :rolleyes:


MJ:ok:

[Dash8driver1312]

...you mean we're not talking about the latest model Pratt&Whitney turbine designation???

...gets coat...

[Talkdownman]

PUT........

[Mariner9]

I think the OP has a potential new career with EASA as the Air Law theoretical knowledge question setter :ok:

[dobbin1]

The example log book in CAP 804 does not have a space to enter PUT ( or whatever). Simply recording the flight as dual and entering the PIC's name is enough.

[RTN11]

Surely this isn't real?

It really doesn't matter what you put, in the AFE world the slash is there to bring it in line with other abbreviation like P1/US, the bit after the slash showing the deviating operating capacity from P1.

[Steve6443]

Well, in MY Logbook I had to write SPIC - still got my licence though :)

[effortless]

One of my ab initio instructors corrected my spelling for me. He spelt it PRAT.

[Whopity]

Well, in MY Logbook I had to write SPIC SPIC is only used for Instrument Flying on Integrated Courses where the pilot is not qualified to be PIC, because they do not have an Instrument Rating. It is very specific to those courses and should not be used elswhere.

[PA28181]

Isn't the acronym "SPIC" now outlawed as it upset's the PC brigade? It is banned on the railway you have to say "Site Person In Charge"

[Steve6443]

Isn't the acronym "SPIC" now outlawed as it upset's the PC brigade? It is banned on the railway you have to say "Site Person In Charge"

Depends where you are in EASA Land. SPIC has no negative connotations in Germany hence we still use the term. If I also refer to Annex to ED Decision 2011/016/R - Acceptable Means of Compliance and Guidance Material to Part-FCL, under abbreviations it lists PICUS (Pilot in command under Supervision) and SPIC (Student PIC).

Therefore my feeling is that any attempt to have the term SPIC outlawed could have been the attempts of a person trying to show how "politically correct" they are. If the term SPIC was only for national use, perhaps a case could be made for it's replacement by P/UT or similar but if we follow the proposal to it's logical conclusion, we'd have to look at changing other abbreviations such as those used for Full Flight Simulator, where the abbreviation generally has a completely different connotation than we would be using it for.....

[Piper.Classique]

Goodnight nurse