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CoffmanStarter
1st Mar 2014, 17:50
A group of medals awarded to an outstanding WWII RAF pilot, Squadron Leader Billy Drake, heads the sale of military medals at Bonhams on March 12th in Knightsbridge.

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Image Credit : Wikipedia Wing Commander Drake 1943

The US Distinguished Flying Cross awarded to him is partly visible, pinned to Drake's chest in the lower right corner of the above picture and at the end of the medal group below.

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Image Credit : Bonhams


A group of medals awarded to an outstanding WWII RAF pilot, Squadron Leader Billy Drake, heads the sale of military medals at Bonhams on March 12th in Knightsbridge.

The most valuable group of medals in the sale - a Second World War D.S.O. and D.F.C. and bar group - awarded to Squadron Leader Billy Drake of the Royal Air Force is estimated to sell for £30,000-40,000.

Billy Drake was born in London on the 20th December 1917 to an English father and Australian mother. He was educated in Switzerland after several schools in England failed to cope with his lively temperament. On seeing an advertisement in the Aeroplane he joined the Royal Air Force, just before his 18th birthday, on a short service commission in July 1936. He was posted to 6 FTS, Netheravon on September 19 and with training completed joined No 1 Squadron at Tangmere on the 22nd May 1937, flying the Fury biplane fighter. In late 1938 the squadron received Hurricanes.

He went to France with No.1 Squadron in September 1939 which was posted to Neuville-sur-Ornain, near Reims. From here over the next few months patrols were taken over the coastal ports as ships carrying the British Expeditionary Force to the continent sailed across the Channel. After initial skirmishes with the Luftwaffe, Drake and his colleagues saw little action during the cold months of the "Phoney War".

But despite this slow start by October 1942 he had destroyed 17 aircraft in the air with two others shared, a total exceeded in North Africa only by one other pilot, the Australian born Group Captain Clive "Killer" Caldwell.

In January 1943 he was promoted to Wing Commander and posted to HQ RAF Cairo. He then took command of the Spitfire Wing in Malta in June 1943, and provided escort to USAAF bombers attacking Sicily, before returning to the UK he was credited with another six enemy aircraft destroyed. He received his American Distinguished Flying Cross in October 1943.

He was appointed Wing Leader 20 Wing flying Typhoons, in late November 1943, and attacked the German V-1 sites in the Pas-de-Calais. With his experience of fighter and ground tactics, he was sent to instruct at the RAF Fighter Leaders' School. Despite being in a training appointment, he frequently absconded for a day to take part in attacks against targets in France. His operational career came to an end in August 1944 where he was sent to The USA on special duties. On his return to the UK he was made Deputy Commander at Biggin Hill and later went to HQ SHAEF to serve in the Operations Room. He took part in the 1945 Battle of Britain flypast.

He was known for wearing a cravat in the colors of English Epsom Derby winner Hyperion, later recalled, "By God, we had a good time. That's not to say we behaved the way Hollywood likes to portray Battle of Britain pilots. Of course, there were a few randy ruffians who would chase any girl. But generally we all had girlfriends, and we didn't use the war as an excuse to sleep with them. We were gentlemen".

After the war he served in operational headquarters, first in Japan and then Singapore. In 1949 he was posted to the Fighter Leaders' School as a senior instructor, an appointment much to his liking and where he converted to jets. This was followed by his appointment as Wing Commander at Linton-on-Ouse near York, where he commanded three Meteor fighter squadrons. In 1956 Drake became the Controller of Fighter Command's Eastern Sector. But he still found time to persuade colleagues to allow him to fly their fighters two or three times a month. Two years later he left to be the Air attache in Switzerland spending the next three years in the country, a period he enjoyed greatly. He returned to the UK in 1962 and took command of the RAF's fighter training base at Chivenor in Devon, where he flew the Hawker Hunter. As a dedicated fighter pilot who had little interest in administration and staff work, he recognized that his flying days would soon be over. He therefore decided to retire from the Royal Air Force on the 1st July 1963, retaining the rank of Group Captain. He lived for 20 years in the Algarve where he owned Billy's Bar.

Billy Drake died at Teignmouth on the 28th August 2011, aged 93.

Bonhams Press Release (http://www.bonhams.com/press_release/15941/)

A more comprehensive personal history ...

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Image Credit : RAF Jever Org : 112 Squadron Billy Drake

He was apparently a direct descendant of Sir Francis Drake.

Daily Telegraph Obituary August 2011 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/military-obituaries/air-force-obituaries/8729626/Group-Captain-Billy-Drake.html)

Coff.

Tankertrashnav
2nd Mar 2014, 09:20
Wow, what a corker of a group of medals - thanks for showing.

Interesting that we were discussing recent awards of the British DFC to two US Marine Corps pilots recently and you have shown us an example of the US award to an RAF pilot.

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/534170-usmc-aviator-receives-british-dfc.html

TBM-Legend
2nd Mar 2014, 09:37
Shared a pint with him at Duxford a few years before he passed. Funny guy and brilliant recall.

MPN11
2nd Mar 2014, 09:53
Another fine warrior's history gone to the highest bidder ... how sad.

I'm puzzled by the rank reference, though. Why Sqn Ldr? He was a Wg Cdr when he was awarded the US DFC in 1943. He retired retaining the rank of Gp Capt (I assume he was a/gp capt, as the RAF Retired List doesn't indicate substantive promotion).

Union Jack
2nd Mar 2014, 12:28
No access to the RAF Retired List but, if the Royal Navy equivalent is anything to go by, this suggests this extremely "distinguished" officer being awarded either War Service Rank (WSR) or Honorary Rank (Hon).:ok:

Jack

alfred_the_great
2nd Mar 2014, 13:59
Nope, retired Gp Capt RAF in his own recognizance in 1963.

Tankertrashnav
2nd Mar 2014, 14:10
Another fine warrior's history gone to the highest bidder ... how sad


Having been in the business of buying and selling medals for the last 35 years I'm obviously not going to agree with those sentiments. Whatever the current owners of the assorted chunks of metal illustrated above do with them, nothing detracts from Billy Drake's career in any way whatsoever. They are merely the tangible evidence of his gallantry and his service - if someone chooses to pay a large sum of money for them, then good luck to the family (if indeed they are the sellers). Naturally some people are going to say they should be in a museum. Fair enough, but my feeling is that if a museum wants them, they should compete for them in the open market - not expect them to fall into their laps for nothing.

Union Jack
2nd Mar 2014, 14:14
Nope, retired Gp Capt RAF in his own recognizance (sic) in 1963.

Roger, Alfred, although you make it sound as if he was out on bail!:confused:

Unusual for a DT obituary not to say when Group Captain Drake was promoted to that rank and, to be fair to MPN11, the thread title indicates Squadron Leader.

Jack

Wander00
2nd Mar 2014, 17:00
Guess he was a gp capt of some sort (acting or substantive) when commanding Chivenor

Old-Duffer
2nd Mar 2014, 17:08
Billy Drake was promoted substantive Wg Cdr on 1 Jan 53 but on retirement on 1 Jul 63, he retained the rank of Gp Capt.


This usually results from one of two things. During the war he held the rank of Gp Capt acting or war substantive or he had been an acting Gp Capt at the time of his retirement and was authorised to retain same as a courtesy.


Old Duffer

500N
2nd Mar 2014, 18:08
I agree with Tankertrash re the medals. Selling them in now way diminishes the service record of the person.

We have had the same situation here in Aus re VC's but luckily have one very rich person who for many years has "helped" in buying them when they come on the market in conjunction with the Australan War Memorial in Canberra or has outright purchased them and then handed them over.

Whenurhappy
2nd Mar 2014, 19:25
If it is the family selling them, well...I would be ashamed if I were they.* I was watching Flog it! the other night and an interesting selection of WWI material came up: Dead Man's Penny and accompanying parchment; a letter from his CO explaining how he died, a couple of medals etc. The grand-daughter explained that they were small items and might lose them when they moved (wtf) and that they were 'boys' things, but set a high reserve (which the items didn't meet).

As reported here, after my brother died unexpectedly a couple of years ago, a bitter ex-sister-in-law destroyed all our family records (birth certificates, marriage certificates, school reports etc) and photos including Granddad's postcards and field post cards of his service in WWI from Samoa, Egypt, Palestine, France, England, Ireland, as well as his discharge certificate & medal set - the latter items tracked down, restored and framed at considerable expense. This still angers me, and let's not get on to the 'missing' gold Omega watch, naval barometer, deactivated .455 Webley, family silverware - all of which she claims that my brother 'threw out'. Oh, and the largest personal collection of British colonial military history books. Yeah, sure, he threw them out.

*But I also understand how inherited items can become divisive, and like Solomon, sometimes it's best that no-one in the family has them!

Tankertrashnav
2nd Mar 2014, 22:19
But I also understand how inherited items can become divisive, and like Solomon, sometimes it's best that no-one in the family has them!


That is very true and I have often been unwittingly involved in these family bust-ups when the purported owner sold me medals, only for another family member to come along later saying they had no right to sell them, etc.

In my own family's case, I have quite happily raised no objection to my oldest brother having our father's rather unusual medals, which will eventually be passed on to his own grandchildren. But in the event of an all too common quarrel I agree it is better that they be sold and the proceeds divided rather than they become a source of division in the family

CoffmanStarter
14th Mar 2014, 19:16
Just an update ...

The medal group was expected to sell for £30K but apparently sold for £85K at auction yesterday.

26er
15th Mar 2014, 19:53
Actually Billy Drake left the RAF under a bit of a cloud. He had been summoned to Fighter Command from Chivenor and was never to return again officially. It was supposed that he had been offered the chance to resign his commission gracefully, probably with a group captain's pension.

roving
5th Mar 2018, 07:34
A real character.

Air Commodore Peter Brothers and Group Captain Billy Drake (http://video.flyingheritage.com/v/117084976/air-commodore-peter-brothers-and-group-captain-billy-drake.htm)