View Full Version : Australian Goverment approves RAAF P-8 acquisition
Darwinism
21st Feb 2014, 01:10
Announced by Tony Abbot this morning:
Govt approves RAAF P-8 acquisition | Australian Aviation Magazine (http://australianaviation.com.au/2014/02/govt-approves-raaf-p-8-acquisition/)
TBM-Legend
21st Feb 2014, 01:37
Good news for the fish-heads...:D
Captain Sand Dune
21st Feb 2014, 02:04
Now watch DMO fcuk it up.
Good on them.
Hopefully it will all come into service on time.
Had a C-17 take off near my house this morning, great sound :ok:
CSD
Yes !!!
Haven't they been castrated yet ?
TBM-Legend
21st Feb 2014, 02:20
If we buy off the line, no probs...ie. C-17/F/A-18F,CH-47....build our own version:yuk:
TBM-Legend
21st Feb 2014, 02:24
If we buy off the line, no probs...ie. C-17/F/A-18F/MH-60R/CH-47....build our own version:yuk:
Do you know any more as to is it off the line or "Aussie customised fck up" ?
I do hope off the line.
TBM-Legend
21st Feb 2014, 02:28
I was in SIN last week and looked at one. The word from USN guy was RAAF ones identical...
Love Monkey
21st Feb 2014, 03:21
Someone will find a reason to Ausfcuk it.
Love Monkey
You mean "DMO will find a reason to Ausfcuk it" :O
Surplus
21st Feb 2014, 04:37
Would prefer the Indian version with a rear radar and MAD.
TBM-Legend
21st Feb 2014, 05:54
We could make some money and sell a few AP-3C's to the "old country"...
Party Animal
21st Feb 2014, 07:41
Lots of cynical comments above but lets be honest, it's really good news for the RAAF and shows a confident future for the MPA Force. I understand that capability will dip initially with the 'off the shelf' sensors that come with the package not being as good as what the AP-3C has but that's inevitable.
Get the airframes in first and upgrade over the next decade to a decent radar, ESM, acoustic suite etc...
Oh, and if the RAF stay out of the game after our next defence review, I suspect Edinburgh will shortly become home to a new set of P-8 instuctors with civilised accents! :D
Yeller_Gait
21st Feb 2014, 09:32
Oh, and if the RAF stay out of the game after our next defence review, I suspect Edinburgh will shortly become home to a new set of P-8 instuctors with civilised accents!
Dream on! The RAAF have plans in place already, so no need for any additional external assistance, thanks.
Y_G
melmothtw
21st Feb 2014, 11:21
RAAF aircraft will be Increment 2 standard (enhanced anti-submarine warfare) that Australia has co-developed with the US Navy, and which will be ready in 2015.
Increment 3, which will be ready in 2019, is still not defined but will likely be rolled out to RAAF aircraft at the same time as the US Navy's.
RAAF will have a common standard with USN.
Sandy Parts
21st Feb 2014, 12:22
any truth in the rumour that this is going ahead to give the RAAF a headstart so that they are a bit more competitive at Fincastle? :) I know, I know - "show us your MPA pommies" etc etc :{
Seriously, well done to a govt that invests appropriately in Maritime Surveillance - enjoy your new toys when you get them. :D
Party
Of course everyone is happy for the RAAF and it is good news,
it's not the RAAF that is the problem, it's others :O
RAAF seems to have a good track record by buying off the shelf
- FA/18, SuperHornet, C-17, hopefully these.
Party Animal
21st Feb 2014, 13:44
RAAF will have a common standard with USN
Oh dear! If that means buy American at all costs, then standby for crap radar, ESM, acoustics and EO kit for evermore....
and no MAD!
TBM-Legend
21st Feb 2014, 19:11
Oh dear! If that means buy American at all costs, then standby for crap radar, ESM, acoustics and EO kit for evermore....
and no MAD!
at least we'll have an MPA unlike some one time great seafaring nation...:=
PS: Sorry about that techo piece of four engined wizardry
Frazzled
21st Feb 2014, 19:21
Have to agree with Captain Sand Dune and 500N.
No matter if off the shelf DMO will find a way to stuff it up- if it's not the actual aircraft purchase then it will be in training, or publications or spares procurement but no matter what - they will find a way,:ugh:
And the reason for that is ????????
It all comes down to Empires that have been built.
If people bypass DMO, huge empires will crumble.
However, in saying that, I think the whole orgs, DMO and ADF
lost one hell of a lot of credibility over some purchases and
might not stick head above parapet in the future.