Flydubai B737NG Type Qualification Program

[geardownflaps15]

Greetings fellow aviators, has anyone heard anything about the upcoming Flydubai B737NG Type Qualification Program in cooperation with CAE ?

https://pilot.cae.com/Careers.aspx

Will it be similar to Ryanair´s Type Qualification Program? :}

[Jaz110285]

May be...anyway is still inactive... :ugh:

[Aleboni]

i think it'll be only for locals :(

[cyrilroy21]

Look like the application window is open

Good luck everyone :ok:

[USA1pilot]

Sounds like you first have to do there type rating program, and if that is finished you can do the flydubai assessment. What if you fail the assessment then you have a type with no hours and much money wasted.

[Bloated Stomach]

I was actually looking forward to this so called Flydubai programme with CAE.

Back to the drawing board :ugh:

[magicmick]

From my reading of the scheme, even if you complete their type rating you're not guaranteed an assessment, those recommended by the training school may get an assessment. So you may or may not get recommended by the TRTO for an assessment that you may or may not get invited to that you may or may not pass. Too mant may or may nots really, I'm too old for it anyway.

Good luck to those that choose to apply, I've a feeling you may well need a fair bit of luck.

[grafity]

Minimum 52 hours in the sim, compared to the Ryanair type which is just 36. That's a minimum of 44% extra sim time.

It also takes six months, compared to 6 weeks at Ryanair. Are they offering a Masters in the Boeing 737NG?

This course ain't going to be cheap!!

Why would you go through all this before getting the opportunity to even apply for a job?

I think I'll sit this one out. I'd suggest thread carefully to anyone who thinks of going splashing out their(or someone else's for that matter) hard earned cash.

[ClintonBaptiste]

What a total disappointment! I have been looking forward to this scheme for months and this is the best they can come up with!

Out of interest does anybody know how much this type rating (and extra sim) will cost? Just for the 'chance' of an interview.

Obviously it is just aimed at people who are going to pay for a rating without the offer of a job anyway. Most people I know who have done (or would do) that, would normally go to Ryanair if possible or a cheaper TRTO like Baltic.

Also no mention of a wage during the 2nd officer program, so if that's 6 months without pay in Dubai - good luck! It's extremely expensive to live there!

:D Flydubai :ugh:

[jetjockey696]

A very risky and very expensive P2F program..its a very stupid program..plus no airline ticket, hotel etc. Its cheaper to pay for your typerating then goto eagle jet or one of other red light establishment.. do a 500/1000hrs in NG then approach flydubi:p or companies other than flydubi..

avoid all this bullcaca that CAE is offering.. this will all end in tears in a few months when someone fails after spending a gold bullion for nothing.. :{

[fulminn]

ryanair type rating last slightly more than 3 months and is 61 hrs into the sim....:ok:

[Yahweh]

Any of you even seriously considering this needs your head examined, in which case you probably wont pass the psychological evaluation anyway :p

[Aleboni]

there's nothing about financial structure of this course...Anyway conditions are very bad.

[runwayedge]

I know its not a great deal but at the moment there are no great deals to be had. I see no difference in this between someone who's going to self fund a type rating with no job prospects. To me if someone was going to a self funded 73 type then this give the chance of an interview for a job which you might not have before.

i know there is no information of how much etc, but its worth investigating for people wanting to self fund.

only my opinion though, don't shoot me down :)

[contacttower118.2]

I also don't see much difference between this and just self funding a type rating - something that unfortunately lots of people seem to be doing anyway.

What I don't understand is why not do the selection before starting the rating like Ryanair does? :ugh:

I mean if someone turns out to be useless on the type course or line training they could just get rid of them anyway - it's not like by doing it that way the company would be exposing itself to much more risk.

[runwayedge]

That's true. I don't understand why either. The only thing I can think is unless it's due to people unable to gain the funding after success at the interview.

I know with the airline I work for now (I had to self fund) (not FR) after we got told we passed one person couldn't raise then funds and our start date was then paused till they found someone to make the numbers. Maybe cos it's only a small airline. But it seems now their trying to get rid of any risk whatsoever.

I wish it could be better.

[SPANK-VT]

:ugh:
It seems quite strange ... by the way I'm too old to apply ... I'm 31 :bored:

[grafity]

What I don't understand is why not do the selection before starting the rating like Ryanair does?

I would have thought that it was quite obvious. Sell a load of extra type ratings to desperate/gullible wannabes.

[FltDirector]

Anyone knows the price of this course?

[Delta_Charlie]

Hi guys!

The cost is 33.000 USD and the base training is not provided...
During the check an authorized Flydubai representative will observe the trainee and may offer an interview with them. Take your risks :E

[geardownflaps15]

If you have already completed a JOC the cost is 29.000 dollars.

[FltDirector]

Suddenly Ryanair looks like a great deal...

[geardownflaps15]

I think it is absolutely ridiculous that they dont have pre-assessments like ryanair, this isn´t a flydubai recruitment scheme, this is CAE tricking desperate people into buying type ratings in hope of a job at the end of it. :ugh:

[Aleboni]

I think few people will apply for this program.... Is there someone who applied and received an answer?

[Kero145]

I have applied last week just to see what's the real deal. Because we don't have a lot of information in the website of CAE.
Still don't have news from CAE.

Where did you get the informations about the prices with and without JOC??
Thanks

[NeverStopTrying]

$33.000 if you don't have a JOC.
In case you do, it's $29.000.

[Kero145]

Check, but where did you get the info??
I would like to have more info about the program...

[Kero145]

hi,

Anyone recently did their assessment or knows what to expect during the CAE/FLYDUBAI screening?

Any information is much appreciated

[geardownflaps15]

There is no pre-assessment or screening, you have to obtain a Type rating from CAE center in Dubai and then maybe you may have a chance of an interview with Flydubai :rolleyes:

[MMorris]

Anyone heard back from CAE about the program at all?

[Kero145]

Ok, but you have to do the Type Rating by yourself first or you need to have a call or mail from CAE to say that you are selected for the type???
It's not clear to me!!!

[Yoush]

Dear Kero,


There is a list of minimum requirements you must meet before they allow you to start the TR. Age, min of 250 hrs, fATPL, MCC, Flown within the last 12 months, EP 4+ etc.

[Yoush]

For everyone on this thread who is condescending about this program:


You must understand that there are a lot of ab initios out there who have no other options. If you think about it:
24.000 EUR for a CAE Emirates Aviation College B737NG TR including a JOC and the amount of hours, is a good deal. Especially for pilots who are on their jobhunt for the last 1, 2, 3 years.
If you put your utmost to it and rise above yourself and pass your checkride they will invite your for an interview.
I have been in contact with the CAE EAC, 12 guys did this program, 4 are employed.
The odds are indeed on the low side, but then again, if an opportunity like this comes up and you are still unemployed after 2 years of graduation, you gonna stay there behind your desk? Or are you taking this chance with both hands.
Worst case scenario for me: I pass the checkride, flyDubai does not employ me, I have a TR plus the experience and a new motivational boost to continue applying for other airlines, airlines who will find you more attractive now you are typerated.

Good luck everyone!

[Crashlanding]

The price is more expensive then doing there TR normally, factor in accommodation, food and travel. Granted Taxis are cheap there.

All that is happening is a Chance, thats it, a chance, not for an interview but to the first round, there are 3 rounds, this would let you skip your CV because you dont have the hours.

Im assuming its the same as the NTR and TR first officer route so you go to Southampton to do
day 1:-Interview, group exercises, presentation
day 2:- Simulator
day 3:- Dubai, interview, medical.

Now note from experience there will be about 8 of you there, this number almost always gets down to two that make it to day 3.

With it being at Southampton you will probably be there with other TR guys. with hours on type.

Thats a lot of money to pay, for a chance to get your CV skipped, then onto your 25% chance of making it to day 3.

[antes56]

@Yoush

this is ridicolous! at the end you will find yourself with an even bigger debt and more frustation...the airline won t look.at you, at least you need to have 500 hrs on type! have a look on the requirements from like every airline in the world!
be real man!

[contacttower118.2]

I might consider this program, as a last resort, if it was on the A320 because it seems a more valuable type to have on the licence.

737 not so good, doing it might rule you out of Ryanair because they have no interest as far as I'm aware at the moment in people who are typed but no line hours, not many other operators who have 737 and consider no hours on type at the moment. If one is going to self sponsor type it is probably best to do A320...

[Crashlanding]

I wouldnt even as a last resort, do the maths, even if you had the hours to do the FO scheme you still only have a 25% chance of passing.

This would be even less of a chance as you still have to pass the TR well enough that they recommend you to start the testing which you have a 25% chance of passing

read this
FlyDubai Pilot Interview Profiles (http://willflyforfood.com/pilot-interviews/237/FlyDubai.html)

You need to understand CTC are going to be involved, you have given them no money, the interviews they get paid to conduct so there is no incentive for them to pass everyone that turns up as that would reduce the amount of interview days they would need to conduct which they get paid to host.

Dont get me wrong Flydubai is not a bad company to work for, the issue is how much you are going to spend for a less than 1/4 chance to getting in.

If you went to a gambling house knowing you had a 1/4 chance of getting a little bit more than what you put in almost 5 years later would you really roll the dice.

Thats not a good pilot characteristic taking risks like that

[AT3]

Yoush,

Where did you get info that out of 12 guys 4 are with FZ now?
I hope not CAE... :}

[Kero145]

Someone was already call by the CAE for this program???

[ab1804]

Not sure what to think of this. Seems quite a risk.

Again, rumours is that due to the runway closure at Dubai (DXB) in may and june, flydubai have to reduce operations, therefore the outlook, if you were lucky to pass all selections, would be a job maybe at the end of 2014 maybe even 2015, and just maybe.

[cefey]

Get an expensive TR, so MAYBE you will be invited for the interview (which you must pass). Meh.

[Azadpanchi]

Is this Flydubai CAE 737 TR program actually for recruitment or just a scheme by CAE to sell their TRs..?? can anyone confirm..?? :confused:

[Joons31]

Sell the Type with a chance of getting an interview:ugh:

[Kero145]

Someone have already apply for this program and have got an answer for CAE??

[Jameson06569]

I applied through CAE and was told this is for GAA cadets only?

[Crashlanding]

Which makes sense since EX Pats are required to have an ATPL I seem to recall

[Kero145]

GAA??? But it was not in the requirements….

[Crashlanding]

To get a TR on licence you dont need an ATPL, hence me and im sure many would not have been flying commercially. (Under JAR/EASA)

What I was putting was from memory to work in UAE as an Expat you needed an ATPL.

[sascha410]

Did they change something since 2012 I do not know, but until june 2012 two of us were flying on JAA cpl, actually got converted to local license GCAA.

[Crashlanding]

Perhaps the ATPL isnt required then to work there, quite a few others in the middle east forum where also thinking it was needed.

Perhaps its just that particular company asking for it that there all working for.

[Azadpanchi]

Reviews from anyone who has completed the B737 TR with CAE Dubai under this FlyDubai "scheme". Does someone even come to assess you from FlyDubai?
I read someone claiming 30% people were selected :rolleyes:. Anyone amongst them here? Need authenticity for this program. :confused:

[Alive]

Hi there,

I just completed my type rating with CAE/Fly Dubai.

I just finished flight school in December & was a young hopeful looking for something in a jobless market. This opportunity looked good to me.

IMO the training is not very good my instructors first language was not English and we had communication issues. All in all CAE is a nice training centre and I certainly felt like a professional pilot training there, I will certainly miss the free snickers bars and unlimited Coca cola on break times!

On the day of my theory exam we all failed it's was tough very hard questions! I got the highest mark 57% the other guys where in the 40's we re-took the exam after being given the answers!! And got high marks!

On the day of the check ride a Arabic looking guy called riyamy or something turned up to watch how we got on, the examiner was American and none if us had seen either of these people before, it didn't go very well for me that day, mind went blank a lot, perhaps the pressure or nerves?

With My steep turns I lost 300ft in alt and my speed would not stay at 250 KTS I also found it hard to maintain 45 degree bank, as I lost speed my alt dropped and the my bank came in to 35 degree it was a nightmare, I was told to continue and we would come back to the steep turns later.

Then came the VOR approach circle to land, I busted an altitude on the inbound turn at 10 DME when I should have held 2,000 till 6DME at this point the sim froze and the TRE asked me how I thought it was going? I said sheepishly not so great, he then said ok let's have a chat in the briefing room, he then tenderly explained to me that I had failed the check ride.

I got back to my hotel and felt the worst feeling of depression I have ever felt in my life! I found it hard to catch my breath and breathe.

After a few days I pulled myself together I got an e-mail from fly Dubai thanking me for my time but they will not be taking anything further with me, and CAE suggesting 3 extra session & a re-test in the sim at $$$$$ cost, of course I did the extra sessions and passed my skill test but now I am type rated and have no opportunity here. I went back to Wales upset and bitter about it all.

I honestly think if you are a 250 hour pilot straight out of flight school this 737 is just too much to take on with that experience & impress the likes of Fly Dubai with your piloting skills. Yes you can learn it & pass a check ride, but with 13 FFS your not going to impress them, you will just know enough to pass the check.

All of my fellow students agreed a 737 compared to what we are learning in flight school on a duchess is so different and much harder, I reckon you need 3 months just to get a grasp on the systems and theory of the machine. Too much to know! Not enough time.

Of the 6 candidates in my pool 2 were called for interview and later those 2 where given good luck with your career letters from fly Dubai. The 2 that did get invited to interview where flight instructors both with 1,000 hours TT both guys where top notch IMO and still we are all out of pocket with no job.

What a great money spinner for CAE, it certainly explains all the Ferraris and Porsches parked in the VIP car park there!! Avoid!!!

[pilot hans]

Nice feedback, well done! most people don't care to share their experience!
A type Rating will always be hard and it always goes quick. This is when a decent selection process comes in very handy! In fact you should know already before you start your training if you would be able to handle a jet type rating. Now they don't care anymore and they let everybody start. If the type rating is given by a professional team in instructors and your basic skills are good then you should be able to get it done.

I hope you can find a job now as a type rated pilot, good luck with all this and once again well done on the feedback. I hope it make some guys/girls think all these things very carefully!

all the best

[Alive]

Hey pilot-Hans,

Yes they just let me start without too much concern about wether I was suitable to under go the training.

Even after I passed my check ride I still felt like they gave me the rating out of sympathy, I guess I will never touch their aircraft so it's easy to give a rating when that's the case.

Looking back if I am honest the aircraft was too fast & too complicated for me & I let my dreams become my master. This kind of airplane is something I should be looking at much later down the line, as for what next for me, I am looking at instructing on a part time basis.

I always read on the job ads 500 hours on type, I use to wonder why airlines wanted this figure, why not 300? Why not 3000? But honestly I can see now that after 500 hours on this machine you would become much less of a liability to the airline hiring you, any less and you are a risk of not knowing the machine well enough, that's what I made of my time at CAE.

Well here's to the future, but honestly if more people go for this with an expectation you will get hired think again, there are cheaper type ratings to be had, CAE are exploiting Fly Dubai to sell more ratings.

[Crashlanding]

Alive, its nice to see an honest review.

Its a shame you had to learn the hard way that trying to impress with so few hours is very hard.

My hope would be others may learn from your experience that doing a TR with no definite of a job and its a chance only of them taking you is a costly experience.

[Woody12]

@Alive

I really feel sorry for you. I hope that your story open the eyes of many (probably not). It is really a pitty that all this money has been lost. Perhaps if you go the instructor route combined with the typerating you already have, that it will open new doors. But that also means that you have to do a lpc check to keep your rating valid.

I am also wondering if you had a good simpartner? Normally if you had to do steep turns, you could have used him as a tool, to check, to adjust power, to give call outs etc. The simpartner can make or break you, to some extend ofcourse. Did he say anything about your altitude you were about to violate?

Did you have to pay a lot for this course? And did you do your touch and go's?

It is really sad to hear that you are now bitter. But if you are honest for yourself, and could have joined ryanair (or other sstr company) would things be different? Would you also fail and struggling?

[Crashlanding]

Woody, i'm sure you meant that to be at "Alive" not me.

[Woody12]

Indeed, sorry for that.

[1234567890987654321]

Just wanted to give some balance to this thread...

I am a low hour pilot and i did the 737 type rating with CAE in Dubai. I passed the written exam first time (95%), and passed the skills test first time with no repeats. I had an interview with Flydubai, and was offered a position as an SO.

Just because its hard, doesn't mean its impossible...

[Azadpanchi]

Congratulations..How many hours do you have exactly/background?
Which country do you belong to?
When did you do your type rating?
Are you sure you are not someone from CAE Dubai posing as one of us? :oh: :}
What kind of an interview do they have post SIM assessment..Technical or HR type (Could you kindly enlighten us)?
Also what selection rate have you seen? (ALIVE's stats (0/6)) What about yours?

[contacttower118.2]

When did you guys apply? I hit apply on the CAE website just out of curiosity at the start of March but haven't heard anything. Beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with my CAE profile - I tried to apply for the Ryanair MCC ages ago but never heard anything...:confused:

[1234567890987654321]

So if someone posts something positive on this forum, your first reaction is to assume that they are either being disingenuous, lying, or both!...

As i said, i joined up and i posted to try to give some balance to all the negativity on this thread. Anyone reading it would think that there is no chance of getting a job! Where as, in fact, i know of 4 ppl, other then myself who have been offered SO positions but are waiting to start, another guy that it waiting for his interview, as well as at least 2 other ppl who are already flying as SOs.

So to those who wish to be negative about everything... Enjoy the job search!

I rolled the dice, worked my butt off, grabbed the opportunity with both hands and achieved the perfect job for me!

[contacttower118.2]

I am skeptical of what you say 1234567890987654321 because considering the relatively short period of time this has been open for I find it hard to believe that people are already flying on the line even if they put their application in on day one.

[1234567890987654321]

Believe me, dont believe me, your choice, makes no difference to me! You can either sit back and hope that something comes to you, or you can go and get it!

[Azadpanchi]

Need assistance to Judge scenario better
How many hours do you have exactly/background?
Which country do you belong to?
When did you do your type rating?
What kind of an interview do they have post SIM assessment..Technical or HR type (Could you kindly enlighten us)?
Also what selection rate have you seen?

[schweizer2]

Worlds fastest type rating course!

[Crashlanding]

Wow im impressed

Thats then in theory at least 12 TR done in what 2 months, and for a couple to be on line as well even better.

My friends that are on type, passed the CTC parts etc have around 4 months to wait as they dont have enough line trainers to physically get everyone done that quick.

Those that where non TR are waiting 6+ months at the moment.

[1234567890987654321]

Who said the program started 2 months ago?... Yet again, theories bounded about as facts... You know what they say about assumptions...

[elmore81]

The Course

Successful candidates will be placed on one of the training courses. These courses start at various intervals throughout the year and run for approximately 6 months.

[Azadpanchi]

@1234567890987654321
Could you please answer my query so we could judge the scene better.
Thanks.

[contacttower118.2]

Who said the program started 2 months ago?... Yet again, theories bounded about as facts... You know what they say about assumptions...

Forgive me for being rather jaded after a few years on this forum but I don't know why I am even bothering to write to this...

People come onto this forum for information, not to play games or argue pointlessly with other posters. If you have some credible information then please share it.

For those who don't know any better we have only what is on the CAE website to go on when looking at this programme. If you know more then please explain, or if you don't wish to share information, which I understand may be the case, then don't post at all.

[1234567890987654321]

Credible information? Read my posts again and you will see that is exactly what i have given you! I have been asked for personal information about me which i am not willing to post online. I have also been asked for an exact ratio of people who were offered a job versus people who weren't. I am not able to give a number because i don't know how many people attempted the type rating or interview. I have told you how many people that i know got through, and at which stages they are at.

I only posted in the first place to give some balance to Alive's posts. I find it telling that negative posts are warmly welcomed and positive posts are viewed with heavy suspicion. The negativity on this forum is astounding, and i fear it is putting many people into a downward spiral.

Think positively guys! Sure there arn't many opportunities out there, and nothing is guaranteed, but negativity breeds negativity, and unfortunately, in forums, it finds it's perfect habitat!...

Regarding the Flydubai program, sure its a big risk, with a lot of money on the line and many hoops to jump through, but i chose to do it because the reward is so big! You also have to ask yourself, what are your other options? I searched for a job for a year without a single interview! Without this program, i probably would still be waiting for one! Im not saying the program is perfect, and im not saying you should do it, but i am saying that it is a credible program, with a huge reward if you make it through!

[Alive]

When I first spoke with CAE we where informed that successful candidates it would take between 4-6 months to reach the line.

My group where the very first batch to complete the programme and nobody made it through to Fly Dubai.

We where also informed off record that for candidates making it through that possible start dates could be delayed due to limited slot times at OMDB throughout May & June & that the entire airline was downsizing during this time.

FZ programme only received approval from GCAA in December 2013

There are some facts on this programme

[Azadpanchi]

@1234567890987654321
No issue if you don't want to share your flight hours..you could at least tell us the kind of interview they conduct post SIM assessment. Is it technical? HR? Written?

[Alive]

We all past the type rating with CAE, but FLyDubai are looking for 737 experts that can answer any question on the many systems, fly well in the sim etc, I just don't think you can show them the standard they are looking for straight out of school and a few FFS sessions

Also you are not allowed to hmmm and ahhhh about questions they ask on the skill test day, they want quick positive answers and if you cant answer like all of us couldn't they make you feel like its all over before you have even begun

Its tough
Its my opinion

I gave it my all

[Pilot1989]

Dear All,

I have been following this thread for the last couple of months and I am considering the option that CAE/EMIRATES training centre is offering. I am graduated since 2010 at the CAE flight academy in the Netherlands and since then I kept training on the B737-NG certified simulator every month to keep up skills and improve the CRM in general. To me, this is mandatory to be interested for the Ailrine industries. Since graduation I have made more then 120 hours on the B737 sim and to be honest; my level of being a pilot has doubled since my graduation...

I do want to say a couple of things about the attitude that some of you seem to have in general;
This program offers a CHANCE for pilots that are aware of their skills and know that they are up to date if it comes to flying and CRM skills. What Alive is saying about making a drop of 300 ft on a steepturn sounds to me if you have not considered this chance accurately..I do find it sad for you that you have not been invited, but saying that this program is not good or should not be trusted is a little bit too overjudged..

If I read the requirements and options that could be offered to pilots, it is not that much different compared to i.e. Ryanair... Try to think about the fact dat a Ryanair TR costs 30k instead of the 21k from Flydubai ( if you have already a JOC ofcourse ), and that Ryanair does not guarentee you with a job.. you receive a 0 hour contract ( and ofcourse as we all know you will be flying 800 hours a year --> If your base is a good one.. )

If you all are F-ATPL pilots and want to become an Airline pilot, stop discussing about the benefits that airlines and the aviation industry is making, wake up --> ofcourse they are having porches and ferrari's at CAE/EMIRATES training centre, Dubai itself is full with these kinds of cars...

As long as you admire the life and work as an airline pilot you should accept that the airlines and aviation industry is using you as an employee.. come on guys, the moment you started your initial flight training you should have considered this..right?!!

Please see my comment as a positive feedback from a colleague F-ATPL pilot who is also in search of his dreamjob, but keep up and try to see the positive signs instead of the negatives...

NOTE: I am a just a Flying Dutch Men and not somebody from Dubai or whatever... keep focussing on what is important guys --> FLYING

All the best to you all,

Cheers,

B.van E.

[Alive]

300ft loss on sim skill test day and you say perhaps airline flying isn't for me? We where under a lot of pressure that day and nothing went right for us, in previous sessions my S turns where great. Have you never made a silly mistake in the sim?? Your not very tolerant

Listen not only did I not get interviewed 4 others did not & the 2 that did, did not get the gig either so make of it what you will, I have since learned that it is a money making scam for CAE, FZ and a couple of heads of department.

I can't believe you wasted additional money in the sim to keep current each month! What a waste, you claim 120 hrs level D sim of which 40 would have been your initial TR, so that 80 hrs @ whatever rate you paid say average $600 per hour and that's being on the cheaper side it equates to $30,000!!! My god you could have got 500 hours LT at eagle jet with that. And for what?? To improve your skills

[Pilot1989]

Dear Alive,

Despite my positive feedback to this thread, I see you can only look at the negative lines in my reply.

If you think that I mean that you do not have the skills to fly for an airline, maybe you should again read the reply carefully, I only ment that there are people who were hired and ofcourse, also people who did not get hired ( welcome to the real world ). But if you do not get hired, why are you claiming that this program is not ''ok''? Perhaps you should have considered this before you started this TR?

About the simhours I fly each month; 600USD? --> could be if the simulators were finished with a nice shine of gold...
In my opinion, if you would like to be interested for airlines you should keep training and improve all of your skills ( including your personal ones! ), but let's say that different opinions do excist between all pilots throughout the globe.

All the best to you.

[captain.weird]

Hi guys..

Someone gave it a try ?

[Solo737]

Hey there, how much do they pay as a SO?

[antes56]

Hi everyone...is still open? how is it going?