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TShan1
22nd Jan 2014, 10:24
Just watched the video doing the rounds at the moment of the Typhoon pilot flying the Mach loop and lake district low level.


I know there are designated areas for military low level flights, but would this still be considered VFR flying?


What are the exact rules for these types of flights?


Thanks, Tom

Tiger G
22nd Jan 2014, 10:44
Here's the vid for those that haven't seen it :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjvgC1cKQGA

CoffmanStarter
22nd Jan 2014, 10:46
MAA Flying Regulations 2000 Series (http://www.maa.mod.uk/linkedfiles/regulation/fly2000seriesprint.pdf)

Publicly available information ... See Section 2330

jimgriff
22nd Jan 2014, 11:00
Traffic is flowed in the loop counter clockwise.

DITYIWAHP
22nd Jan 2014, 11:12
.... only during the day....

kharmael
22nd Jan 2014, 12:52
Yes it's VFR, not gonna low fly in instruments now are we? Almost the whole of the UK is a low flying area, 250ft day and night.

TShan1
22nd Jan 2014, 12:58
kharmael I knew it wouldn't be instruments, didn't know if there was special clearances or the like. Fair one though, thanks for the replies.

Navy_Adversary
22nd Jan 2014, 16:30
Great Video, it would be awesome on IMAX.:ok:

MAD Boom
22nd Jan 2014, 17:26
250ft day and night.

Not if you were any good in flying training and were streamed rotary god! :)

exMudmover
22nd Jan 2014, 17:36
Kharmael,

Quote: not gonna low fly in (sic) instruments now are we?

Ever heard of ATF?

jimgriff
22nd Jan 2014, 18:34
But you wouldn't want to go through the top of the Talyllyn pass (Crossfoxes Gap) in the dark.:eek:

kharmael
22nd Jan 2014, 23:45
MAD Boom: Don't you rotary chaps just call that 'flying'? :ok:

ExMudmover: Certainly have, scary stuff. Probably cheating during the day and VMC :E Not sure how much our current risk-averse overlords are willing to let the lads use it nowadays?

exMudmover
24th Jan 2014, 08:50
Kharmael,

Certainly did a bit of LL IMC ATF in my day (early days of the GR1 force). Technically not permitted because of inflexibility of LL rules. Happened all the time at night, so what was the problem of doing it by day?

By the mid-80s most of us trusted the system not to fly us into the ground (it had pretty good fail-safe features). A quick TF engagement as you approached cloud-covered hills and then press on through the white stuff. R to S minimum in peacetime was 300ft IIRC.

Flying in turns was a bit ball-grabbing, as low cloud is rarely continuous over high ground. Every now and then in a turn you would look down and see rocks and trees flashing past uncomfortably close, but if you trusted the system that wasn’t a problem.

No idea what they get up to these days with the machine.