US Marine Corps aboard new UK carriers !

[Stuffy]

I have been informed that US Marine Corps F-35B's and Ospreys will be stationed on board Britain's new carrier.

Apparently we cannot afford to do the job ourselves.

PM Cameron(Wine Bar Johnny) is pleased with this result. Part of his integration thingybobby.

Five Boeing Poseidon aircraft have been allocated MPA. They will contain a British officer.

British fast jet pilots have been loaned to the USA and France: To keep their hand in.In what, has not been clarified.

There is more good news. House prices continue to rise and Wine Bar Johnny 2,Mr Osbourne, says that the economy is doing fine. But there is no money for defence. The wind she blow it down.

Vladimir Putin is watching these developments with profound interest, as the Royal Navy doesn't have enough ships for carrier escort.

The Labour Party has not expressed its views on this issue.

Pip pip

Stuffy

[4Greens]

Will they be allowed to drink? US Navy still dry since prohibition.

[Hangarshuffle]

Source old boy, source?

[SASless]

Needed for "Leavening" I should think.

[Hangarshuffle]

Maybe he's been talking to some USMC in a bar? Better bet for the USMC by far - better living accommodation, stowed alcohol and lots of it, some decent looking birds to grope when you've got your combined long deployment/beer goggles on, Sky telly....we had some USMC on with us in 99, and we had regular USN on in 94,95 and they just couldn't believe how well they were treated compared to their own manky funless grotts. One lad was in tears when he had to go back.

[awblain]

Maybe finally a definition of "The Big Society"?

A very expensive UK (maybe soon Scottish) ship on which various international friends gather to fly extremely expensive aircraft that the UK can't afford.

Escorting a carrier (singular) shouldn't use up too many ships. There are several reportedly-very-capable new Royal Navy anti-air destroyers, and submarines. I'm sure Vladimir knows at least as much about their capabilities and plans as Dave and George.

Given that the Labour party's previous glorious leader signed the jaw-droppingly and mind-numbingly expensive poison-parachute contract to build the ships in his constituency, it's perhaps not surprising that the Labour Party doesn't say much on the subject.

[Jimlad1]

I am impressed at the way you've been able to glean information on the new carriers airwing several years before any decisions are made.

when you've finished using it, can I borrow your TARDIS please, as there are some lottery numbers for next week I just need to check...

[gr4techie]

There is more good news. House prices continue to rise and Wine Bar Johnny 2,Mr Osbourne, says that the economy is doing fine. But there is no money for defence. The wind she blow it down.

I've been thinking about houses prices recently. Since the 1950's they have gone up in price since the 1950's by 8000% . If you buy a house on Clapham Highstreet for £1.55 million no way did it cost £1.55m to build. SOmeone is cashing in big time and laughing all the way to the bank. "We're all in this together" ?!?! Houses prices are kept artificially high, if you build more, the prices would come down.

Why exactly is it so expensive for us to own a home? | | Independent Chunomics Blogs (http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/08/28/why-exactly-are-homes-so-expensive/)

[Heathrow Harry]

"SOmeone is cashing in big time and laughing all the way to the bank."

normally the last person to buy it is that person

I'll bet there are very few houses over 50 years old in London that are still in the hands of the original tenant

[Rakshasa]

There's a US Comms suite on board for NATO purposes and while I'm sure there will be a lot of cross decking, the rumors of a permanent US harrier/F35 presence are ridiculous.

[gr4techie]

normally the last person to buy it is that person

I'll bet there are very few houses over 50 years old in London that are still in the hands of the original tenant

You may have sold it for more but when you move into another similar sized house in the same area you have to pay more. So you haven't made anything. You only make a profit if you bought multiple properties that you didn't need to live in.

[Stuffy]

House prices are all very interesting, but...

The Information is embedded in the article ' A Brit flying a Rhino'
AirForces Monthly: The world’s number one military aviation magazine (http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/view_issue.asp?ID=4975)

[GreenKnight121]

Sorry, you won't get your sales commission, as I'm not going to buy a copy just to see if you read the article correctly.

[SpazSinbad]

Perhaps the idea came from this PDF available free:

Leveraging UK Carrier Capability
A Study into the Preparation for and Use of the Queen Elizabeth-Class Carriers
Tobias Ellwood MP | Occasional Paper, September 2013
"...Author’s Recommendations p.31
...Under the Statement of Intent for Enhanced Cooperation on Carrier Operations and Maritime Power Projection of 2012, establish a joint US-UK experimental carrier-force unit that would assist both countries in developing future carrier-strike and littoral-manoeuvre capability. The unit should take responsibility for developing future UK carrier manpower skills as well as the modelling and simulation of the Queen Elizabeth-class deck cycles, mixes of F-35B aircraft, rotary-wing aircraft, embarked forces and integration of UAS."
http://www.rusi.org/downloads/assets/Leveraging_UK_Carrier_Capability.pdf (1Mb)

[Stuffy]

From the article in Air Forces Monthly, entitled, 'A Brit Flying a Rhino'.

Future Force..
The future RN carrier air wing is likely to include US Marine Corps F35B squadrons and possibly V- 22 Ospreys, in multiple roles,including air to air tanking. This US-UK cooperation is framed within a statement of intent to improve maritime power projection capability, which uses ambitious goals for the integration of forces. From both Nations on a tight timeline. Training together as a cohesive force will form the bonds that are needed.

End quote.

[glad rag]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/22200000/Del-derek-del-boy-trotter-22216064-1024-768.jpg

[Hangarshuffle]

Change the name then, call it something else. The result of a long line of failure of UK civilian and military leadership and management.

[glad rag]

Oh dear.



:)

[SpazSinbad]

Americans visit Royal Navy’s ‘spectacular’ new carrier 23 January 2014
"Some of the most senior commanders in the US Armed Forces have visited Britain’s future flagship to see what the Royal Navy’s first big carrier in four decades will bring.

Senior officers from the US Navy and US Marine Corps toured HMS Queen Elizabeth in Rosyth as part of talks to help the two navies work side-by-side on carrier operations in the future....

...The Americans are providing the RN with extensive support to help Queen Elizabeth and her sister Prince of Wales into service, from British and US pilots training side-by to RN and RAF engineers supporting USMC F35 trials aboard the USS Wasp and Fleet Air Arm aircraft handlers working on the decks of American flat-tops.

In the longer term, as part of an agreement signed by Whitehall and the Pentagon, the aim is for US aircraft to be able to operate from the RN’s two carriers and vice versa...."
https://navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/9785

[newt]

So who will be driving the ship?:{

[SMT Member]

Windows XP, one would imagine.