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sandozer
10th Jan 2014, 10:17
The top ten dog-fighters of 2014 (WVR fighter assessment) | Hush-Kit (http://hushkit.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/the-top-ten-dog-fighters-of-2013-wvr-fighter-assessment/)

Of course we would all agree . . :rolleyes:

Yeller_Gait
10th Jan 2014, 11:31
Seriously, no F15, and Hornet/Super Hornet are the considered the same?

Last time I looked, the USAF were flying 15 & 16 as aggressors, nothing else.

Y_G

54Phan
10th Jan 2014, 12:17
No, the F-15 and F-16 are very much in frontline service with the cousins.

Lists like this are always subjective and by their very nature generate debate, which isn't ALWAYs a bad thing.

Pure Pursuit
10th Jan 2014, 12:35
F15 with its updates is almost a 4th Gen + jet.

Typhoon with poor Alpha performance...?

glad rag
10th Jan 2014, 13:09
Isn't the whole point to avoid getting into a furball?

The Helpful Stacker
10th Jan 2014, 13:21
Top Trumps will never go out of style.

Courtney Mil
10th Jan 2014, 13:41
Isn't the whole point to avoid getting into a furball?


not if you want to have fun!

glad rag
10th Jan 2014, 14:05
Oh we can have our fun in bucketfuls.....Tr 3 Typhoon first flight video..achtung Spitfuer...:D


iIFRY_NT_30

barnstormer1968
10th Jan 2014, 14:07
So the number one dogfighter has older and slow to deploy missiles and loses speed rapidly.

glad rag
10th Jan 2014, 14:17
Speed is the new stealth dontcha know...:}

SASless
10th Jan 2014, 14:19
Dog Fighting is bad tactics.....killing the enemy BVR is the key to survival.

Hit from afar....get your hits in.....and beat feet to do it again another day.

Nothing has changed in that regard since WWI.

Far better to make that one pass through the enemy formation....get what you can and set up for another go where you have every advantage.

What has changed is the technology that allows you to this from a far greater distance and with much more efficiency.

Dog Fights occur when both the Good and the Bad Guys get it wrong.

Air Forces have too few airplanes and the inability to replace them to be able to go out and take losses so it really gets down to being better at killing the bad guys and not risking your own aircraft unnecessarily.

It is not very romantic or macho....but winning is everything....and you have to be alive to Win.

MPN11
10th Jan 2014, 16:01
Fond memories of a certain 'Ning mate at Tengah, who use to like to try to dog it with 20's Hunters. They had miles of film with the pipper on Muldoon's cockpit :cool:

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU
10th Jan 2014, 17:42
Hit from afar....get your hits in.....and beat feet to do it again another day.


Maybe that's what the fighter boys should have done in the Summer of 1940. It might have saved me all the effort of learning German as a second language.

4Greens
10th Jan 2014, 19:37
The term 'dogfight' is superfluous. Its all long range missiles and UAV's. Or maybe Manpads.

FoxtrotAlpha18
10th Jan 2014, 20:27
...assuming your ROEs allow you to go BVR...