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Hi all Pilots
I am longing to be a pilot, and I live in HK. I have some basic information about CX'z Cadet Pilot Program. If any insiders here might know, what advantages might we need to be choosen?
ERRR, another reli reli annoying question to me, what 's the restrictions if we need corrective lens??... or maybe how good does our eye need to be?
Adn also , is there any rules for airlines to follow when recruiting pilots who need corrective lens?
Samuel!!
What do you mean by 'advantages'?
As for eyesight it's really in their discretion whether they overlook that. If they think you're good enough it doesn't matter if you wear glasses.
Hey thanks Guru
Thats good to hear. . .Uhh,. advantages like anything you need to be special in, your enthusaism...any special posts you might've held in college, and prefered subjects in Universities as thats what Cathay didnt' state in their homepage
Thanks
You don't have to have any relevant qualifications or experience to be considered. Indeed, most cadets don't have an engineering or scientific background. It's more important that they think you have the qualities and potential to get through the course rather than what bits of paper you possess.. .Provided you're serious enough about being a pilot and that you've made some efford in gaining some background knowledge about the company and aviation in general then you should be able to reach the third stage of the selection process which is flight grading. From then on it all depends on whether you can fly or not. Mind you some enthusiastic graders who might not have scored very highly compared with others got admitted.
Guru, do you mind giving me some details about the stages we need to pass in order to be selected??
Thanks, Samuel
First round: interview, numeracy, english and hand-eye coordination tests.
After passing a medical,. .Second round: interview, numeracy, logic and personality tests, flight planning exercise.
Third round: Flight grading in Adelaide.
Fouth round: interview with managemant pilots.
What s the hand eye coordination test? And the thing i'm most concerned, the medic test. Do the docs fail you becuz of eye sight problems, or it goes with a marking scheme, like you pass the whole thing you pass, or whenever one part fails, you're kicked out?
Samuel
I'm not sure how eye sight and others correlate I'm afraid. But I imagine that won't matter to you too much at this stage as you haven't applied yet, right?
As for the tests.....it'd spoil them for you if I tell you what they are!
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OKOK!!! I suppose you are an insider!!
thanks for your help. But hopefully I will REALLY need your help 8 years later!
Samuel
Kubota
9th Feb 2002, 04:09
8 years? What's the significance?
you mean asking 8 years before I really need it? uhhh...as a matter of fact , it's for reference only . Or maybe let myself know more and get well prepared for a carrer in the Aviation industry.
Get a PPL, CPL, CIR & ATPL if you have 8 years in your hands! Then you won't have to worry about any coordination tests, will you?
AC826
10th Feb 2002, 19:38
Actually what I meant by 8 years is that I have 3 years of college and another 4 years of university plus one more years spared out to pick up myself. Getting all the ratings and certificates are way too hard for me. First, because I am in HK, and their aren't flying schools for me to get anything after PPL I suppose. Next, I don't think I can afford the time and money to get all the ratings and risk for a job in the states or Canada, before getting all schooling finished...If I do, I'll be 30+ before i get to anything. So the most straight forward way to be a pilot is looking for a job in Cathay Pacific, joining their Cadet Pilot programme and get all the exams done free and be a captain approx 15 years later~!!! That looks too good for me>. But hard to imagine if it goes as smoothly as what i think might happen...bla~~
I am just trying to pick up more information to see how I should plan my future`
TALUFTEN
11th Feb 2002, 01:03
AC826,. .Since you are in Hong Kong why don't you just go over to Cathay Pacific City at the brand-spanking-new HKG airport and ask them directly. There should be lots of pilots/recruiters over there who can answer your questions more thoroughly. Then come back to the forum and share the info.. .Just a suggestion.
franksnbeans
11th Feb 2002, 16:20
AC826. .not an insider, but with regards to eyesight, I believe airlines are okay with it, as long as you can pass the Class 1 medical, which you need to be issued with CPL. Afterall, it wouldn't be the most demanding (work up a sweat and have your glasses slide off) flying job.
Regards, fnb
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AC826
12th Feb 2002, 20:38
Hey men ., THanks a lot for all your replies~
MAybe I am not really familiar with the systems and rules. How perfect do we need to be to get a class 1 medical cert?....and what else are there?
What about laser treatments? I've heard that its not really recommended, but what do u think in 10 years, suppose?
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TALUFTEN
12th Feb 2002, 23:30
AC826,. .You have 8 years to go. The surgical technology available then will be far superior to what there is available today. My advise is to wait until you absolutely have to have your vision surgically enhanced before doing so. It's not worth the risk right now...maybe later on.
franksnbeans
13th Feb 2002, 04:32
The class 1 medical is no biggy. For me, it was divided into two parts:. .The body doctor and the eye docter. .At the body doctors:. .- You have to stand on one foot.. .- **** in a cup. .- blow into some 'thingy' (I think to test for Asthma). .- colour blind test (reading different coloured numbers out of a book). .- blood test (ouch, but I didn't faint!). .- ECG (heart monitor). .- hearing test ('she be apples' if you don't listen to load music!). .- oh, and the worst; 'drop and cough', but don't worry, the docters hand aren't too cold because they will wear gloves
Eye doctor:. .full examination. doesn't hurt. they do much the same as a normal optometrist. But bring your sunglasses with you, as they will dialate your puples. Probably better if someone drives you there, because won't be able to see properly for a few hrs!
oh yeah, don't get laser surgery, as already stated above, wait until you need it done to pass the medical, by that time the technique will be 'tried and true'.. .good luck
fnb
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GSPIN
13th Feb 2002, 22:22
Go to thier website: Cathaypacific.com follow the job links to cadet pilot scheme. All the info info is there. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
tcyr19
3rd Jul 2002, 07:57
I read all your posts.... and I'm also interested in applying to CX. I'm a HK resident, but I already have a PPL and is going for the CPL and multi-IFR ratings within these few months. I heard from a local F/O at CX that he was accepted directly as a S/O in local terms. He finished studying Engineering in the states and got his CPL multi-IFR with about 250 hrs when he applied. Does CX still do this for locals? If so, is it easier to get in with CPL or the Cadet program with a PPL?
Greatly looking forward to your inputs...
franksnbeans
3rd Jul 2002, 08:38
tcyr19
my friend is doing the cadetship at the moment. she had a PPL and about 140hrs when she got in. she also said that most of the other guys who got through were beginning their second career, with no flying exp.
it sounds like a lot of work, but anything good is worth working hard for!
rgds
fnb
buttline
5th Jul 2002, 07:31
I believe the HK union has got a ban on new entry pilots into Cathay due to an ongoing Industrial Dispute over some sackings - The 49ers. There was even a notice about it in Flight International.
Go to the forum for Hong Kong on PPrune (Fragrant Habour) for more info - it's pretty heated stuff!
Although many people seem to feel it's unfair for them to place the burdon of the dispute on young unemployed pilots, I'd think carefully about whether you want to upset your future colleagues (and training captains) by joining right now.
This link is a PPrune banner - http://bbs.hkalpa.org/public/ban.htm