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Desert Flower
13th Nov 2013, 23:39
Pretty much what we expected I guess. :(

VFR flight into dark night involving Aérospatiale, AS355F2 (Twin Squirrel) helicopter, VH-NTV, 145 km north of Marree, SA on 18 August 2011

DF.

PinkusDickus
14th Nov 2013, 00:03
Link not working - try this one.

ATSB Report (http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2011/aair/ao-2011-102.aspx)

VH-XXX
14th Nov 2013, 00:26
No surprises there really. I knew about the lack of NVFR recency but was hounded for saying it on here in the last thread.

In the synopsis alone there is far too much use of the word "probably."

Flying Binghi
14th Nov 2013, 00:53
via VH-XXX:
In the synopsis alone there is far too much use of the word "probably."

Hmmm... i'll bite. Why do you think that VH-XXX ?


The ATSB found that the pilot probably selected an incorrect destination on one or both of the helicopter's global positioning system (GPS) units prior to departure. The ATSB concluded that, after initiating the right turn at 1,500 ft, the pilot probably became spatially disoriented. Factors contributing to the disorientation included dark night conditions, high pilot workload associated with establishing the helicopter in cruise flight and probably attempting to correct the fly-to point in a GPS unit, the pilot’s limited recent night flying and instrument flying experience, and the helicopter not being equipped with an autopilot.

Investigation: AO-2011-102 - VFR flight into dark night involving Aérospatiale, AS355F2 (Twin Squirrel) helicopter, VH-NTV, 145 km north of Marree, SA on 18 August 2011 (http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2011/aair/ao-2011-102.aspx)












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Up-into-the-air
14th Nov 2013, 01:31
Please merge with:

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/461136-three-killed-south-australia-helicopter-crash-4.html#post8150968

VH-XXX
14th Nov 2013, 01:55
The thread should probably remain here as the NVFR discussion has implications for fixed wing too and not everyone reads rotor heads.


via VH-XXX:
In the synopsis alone there is far too much use of the word "probably."

Hmmm... i'll bite. Why do you think that VH-XXX ?


I'm not sure if you are just s!it stirring yet again, however the use of the word "probably" three times in the one paragraph implies that they don't really know.


In the US NTSB reports, if they can't find a reason or don't definitively know, they state this and then just say what probably happened.


Look at the graphic on page 4. They lasted 171 seconds. Sounds familiar? Who remembers "178 seconds to live?"




Link not working - try this one.

There seems to be an issue with the URL's of late in threads. When a link is created it redirects to VIGLINK some kind of money making click for cash website that I presume eventually ends up at the desired website.. I've asked the mods via PM to see what it is and if it's on by design.