Hiller 12c CAA examiner

[timprice]

Hi does anyone know of a Hiller 12C examiner CAA approved,
I have a few FAA students looking perhaps of changing over to a national licence as it as it is an Annex 2 aircraft.
We all fly it on FAA tickets.
Also getting calls from around Europe too.:ugh:

[S-Works]

Who has been doing exams previously?Or is this only been on the N reg and now falling under the dual licence requirements?

If there is not CAA examiner currently then you are going to need to book the tests with a CAA staff Examiner as they have the 'golden ticket' approval for conducting tests in types they do not hold.

Once you have the rating on a European Instructors licence you can follow the established path to Instructing and Examining on type.

We have been through this on fixed wing type specific aircraft in recent years.

[HeliAl]

The CAA staff examiners no longer have the golden ticket. Examiners under EASA must be type rated! And additional training has to be done under an ATO. Which the CAA do not have. (Probably waiting for the paper work to be processed, or they cannot afford the charges.) So it is getting harder for all off us.

[S-Works]

Thats interesting information. Does explain a recent exchange with the now though!!

[timprice]

I believe the CAA have an ATO, other wise they would not beable to conduct any test's, but the problem lies with the number of types out there, keeping current with the cost's involved is the hard bit for everyone.

[BillieBob]

I believe the CAA have an ATO, other wise they would not beable to conduct any test'sThat is a misunderstanding of the Regulation - there is no requirement to hold ATO approval to examine, only to instruct.

EASA requirements do not apply to Annex II aircraft so there is no requirement for refresher training to be done at an ATO and the CAA could keep its 'golden ticket' for these types if it wished.

[timprice]

Although you are right about there is no requirement to hold ATO approval to examine, only to instruct, you can not examine unless you are testing under the approval of ATO, because if the candidate fails the test, it would count as instruction and therefore you require an ATO?
Also what about standisation and how do they audit them self's on approved training etc?
Is that not correct?:ugh:
The law is there to guide us, and we have to some how fit within the guide lines.:ok: