FAA Flight Review

[Hopadopter]

Hi all, Is there any restrictions on the country of registration of a helicopter used for a FAA flight review. I wish to carry out my review in a R22 shortly and just want to check it is ok to do so in a G-reg aircraft. I cant find anything in the FAR's in relation to aircraft used for reviews. Also is it sufficent for the Instructor conducting the review to just be FAA licenced or must they also hold a European instructor licence if the flight is again in a G-Reg aircraft. All constructive comments most appreciated.

[timprice]

The G reg is fine in UK, FAA instructor I think technically should have both EASA & FAA ticket to complete FR, because if you should not pass it would count as instruction and therefore he/she would require EASA licence?
:ok:

[Hopadopter]

Thanks Tim, just out of interest then does that also mean that to instruct someone for the requirements of a FAA licence or rating in a G-reg the instructor would also need to be EASA licenced.

[MarcK]

The FAA Flight Review is not pass/fail. It does not count as instruction.

[MarkerInbound]

Yes, but AC 61-98 says the FR is an "instructional service." While there is no log entry to show a FR was not completed, many instructors will sign it off as "dual received."

[fijdor]

I am kind of curious to find out exactly what is a "Flight review" I did find some infos about it but I am a little bit confused and can't put it anywhere as far as requirement for work like a PPC (Pilot Proficiency Check) or the required yearly training that we do here in Canada.

Is it something you have to do every year to keep your license valid?

JD

[SASless]

Try reading this article....it answers most of the questions.

AOPA - Pilots Guide to the Flight Review (http://www.scribd.com/doc/4012579/AOPA-Pilots-Guide-to-the-Flight-Review)

When I gave them....unsatisfactory performance resulted in remedial training and a second attempt.

Until the pilot being "reviewed" proved a satisfactory level of knowledge and performance.....I did not make the required Log Book entry confirming accomplishment of the Review.

When someone with an Autogyro asked for a Review....I would absolutely refuse to even admit I had spoken to the guy. No way I was going to put my name into a Log Book of an Auto Gyro Pilot....as the risk far outweighed any amount of money offered.

[fijdor]

Got it. Thanks SASless.

JD

[grumpytroll]

I recently completed my training and type ride for an FAA cert. in a Canadian registered aircraft. The training was given in the U.S. No one seemed to care and the company has been using the aircraft for just such purposes for a while.

Cheers

[md 600 driver]

Grumpy

I think you will find Tim was using uk CAA rules not Canadian/FAA rules
And the original poster was asking about FAA flight review in a G reg (CAA uk)

Hop re training
If you was paying the FAA instructor he would need to have easa instructor licence in g reg to get paid CAA rule
If no charge was made for instruction there would not be a need for easa licence at the moment
Steve

[Hopadopter]

Thanks everyone for the responses.
AC 61-98 and the AOPA link are both very useful resources for all involved in FAA flight reviews.
MD 600 Driver I think your point is most relevant, in that under partial/full implentation of EASA regs a instructor will have to be EASA licenced to get paid for instruction in this circumstance, and more importantly to instruct in a EASA helicopter such as a G-reg in the first place.

[muermel]

Hello

I'm planning to go to the US to get my biannual flight review (FAA CPLH) and some recurrency training done (before the review). Can I get this done without too much of a hassle regarding TSA and immigration/ VISA requirements? I am German by the way and do not hold any VISAs or a Greencard etc.. I do hold a CPLH, CFI, CFII and FAA-IR(H) and I'm fairly sure that I read somewhere that "recurrency training" such as a flight review doesn't count as flight training, hence no TSA "Alien Flight Students Program" and M1-Visa required.

Anybody who can put me in the right direction? The FAA's and TSA's website do not really help.


Cheers

[Pat Cox]

Muermel,

Perhaps this will help:

Guide to TSA's Alien Flight Training/Citizenship Validation Rule - AOPA (http://www.aopa.org/Pilot-Resources/Flight-Instructor-Resources/AOPAs-Guide-to-TSAs-Alien-Flight-Training-Citizenship-Validation-Rule.aspx)

[muermel]

Thanks Pat Cox. That's what I need. Now I only have to find out if I can do the flight review on a visitors visa.

Greetings

[Gordy]

muermel:

You are aware that your CFI is only good for 2 years right, and that by renewing it by flight test will also count as your flight review?

[muermel]

Yes I know that. I will finish an FIRC online course this week so that I will "only" have to do the flight review. I'm sure theres a lot more study AND recurrency training involved to pass a flight test for the CFI with a DPE than passing the FIRC and the flight review for the CPL.

Hopefully my flight school sees the light in my case and doesn't maintain it's position that I have to enroll into one of their programs and that I will have to get a M-1 visa and jump through all the hoops again.

I will find out within the next days.


Cheers

[Boudreaux Bob]

Flight Review during a CFI Practical Test info.

http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Flight-review-and-CFI-checkride.pdf

[MartinCh]

Gordy, now that's funny question. Surely you're used to some people from outside as well as inside US, who may forget the very basics of renewals/maintaining the validity and privileges of their FAA ratings..

muermel,
I'd not bother with school that insists on going through all the M1 visa paperwork, additional cost and inconvenience, when you can simply do 5hr flight portion flight review.
The regs say MINIMUM 1hr flight 1hr ground. Just because some people want to do the lowest cost/flight time option, sometimes due to their inflated ego, doesn't mean you can't decide to do longer flying.

It's like rental checkout. Companies/schools may state minima, but if one's rusty or wants to get more current/proficient, beyond the CFI OK'ing the person, why not? You're not training towards licence or rating, which would insinuate the need for student visa.

If your instructor certificate's expiry isn't too long from now, you may consider renewing it. You've probably done it at least once, wildly guessing from your pprune registration date. No need for fiddling with affidavits/certified copies/IACRA from abroad. I know one guy who seems to be a victim of the Govt shutdown last year, doing online FIRC and IACRA application for the renewal and somewhere between CLICK sending it and few months ago, hiccup happened, company claiming no fault, FSDO saying they'd not renew the CFI/CFII certificate, new eFIRC doens't make sense since his first CFII expired last autumn and not renewed due to some mystery snag. I tried to get more info from him to ascertain the crux of issue.

So yeah, bottom line, (lifetime - cheaper) FIRC online and dropping in to local FSDO with 8710 and other docs and done.
I've renewed my CFI on Friday the 13th and no snag. :} Other than over 3 months till the plastic certificate showed up in post, due to the funding/staffing of FAA last year.

TSA? What for? You mean SEVIS (for M1 visa)? You've got your FAA ratings. Are you gonna do TWIN RATING, needing TSA paperwork? You've got your initial FAA and IR, so if you finished those/have licenses or ratings issued, the only other TSA unless counting some airliner TRs, in GA, is multi engine rating.

[muermel]

MartinCh

It's all sorted now, I can just pop over there, get some hours of dual instruction, do the Review, finish my FIRC online, visit the FSDO and it's done. Now that Greencard would come in rather handy after I will have it all shiny and renewed :E

Thanks