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tartare
3rd Nov 2013, 21:31
Mods - apologies if posted elsewhere already.
Extraordinarily lucky that all survived.

By Gil Aegerter, Staff Writer, NBC News
Two single-engine aircraft carrying skydivers collided 12,000 feet above Superior, Wis., on Saturday evening, sending one plane plummeting to earth in flames – but all nine jumpers and both pilots survived, said one of the jumpers.
The only person injured, except for bumps and bruises, was the pilot of the plane that crashed. He used an emergency chute to escape the falling aircraft but suffered cuts, Mike Robinson, who was aboard that plane, told NBC News.
The incident occurred as a Cessna 185 was closely following a Cessna 182 for a maneuver called a tracking dive, Robinson said, in which a lead jumper is followed across the sky by the other jumpers.
Robinson, 64, of Duluth, Minn., said the weather was good – lingering clouds had dissipated. “The sun was just getting ready to set, it was our last load of the day,” he said. “It was just a perfect time to be up in the sky.”
He was one of four jumpers aboard the lead aircraft. All four were outside the door on the step ready to leap from 12,000 feet when the trailing plane collided with their aircraft – although Robinson said it is unclear just why that happened. The wings on his aircraft separated and the fuselage caught fire, and all four jumpers immediately leaped to safety.
The pilot had on an emergency parachute and was able to get out of the plummeting fuselage, although he suffered cuts to his hands and face, Robinson said. NBC station KJBR of Superior reported that he was taken by ambulance to a hospital, but Robinson said he did not seem too badly injured.
The other aircraft, a Cessna 185 with five jumpers and a pilot on board, went into a steep dive, Robinson said. Three jumpers had been on the step on the aircraft's exterior, and two were able to jump immediately, but the third was pinned to the outside, he said. Eventually that person was able to leap, and two others inside also jumped. The pilot was able to pull out of the dive after losing several thousand feet, then landed that aircraft, although it suffered damage, Robinson said.
“The outcome for us was as good as it could be,” he said.
Braydon Kurtz of Superior told the Duluth News Tribune that he was duck hunting along the St. Louis River.
“We heard a boom and looked up and there’s a fireball and smoke,” he said. He said one plane “was circling down and one was going down straight.”
KJBR said the Federal Aviation Administration had been notified of the accident. The planes were owned by Skydive Superior.
Robinson said most of the jumpers were in their 20s and 30s, and he was the oldest member of the group.
“This was my fourth jump of the day – I have over 900 skydives,” Robinson said. "I'll remember this one more than most.”

Updated - now with photos here:
Exclusive images show skydivers' terrifying collision and chaotic plunge - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/04/21308806-exclusive-images-show-skydivers-terrifying-collision-and-chaotic-plunge?lite)

49th
4th Nov 2013, 03:18
Skydive Superior 182 and 185 collide, 182 pilot plus 9 pax jump as plane breaks up.
185 lands safely. One jumper says they were amid falling debris on the way down.
From the Grand Forks Herald:

Survivors of Saturday's mid-air collision take to the sky again | Grand Forks Herald | Grand Forks, North Dakota (http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/277406/)

All 11 may be on Today show and maybe helmet cam vids will air.

cyflyer
4th Nov 2013, 14:49
So many cam videos, should show who screwed up, and someone sure did, big time. If two planes are going to fly in formation, the pilots should brief beforehand, one flies steady course, other formates on to him, carefully. Obviously one of them did not follow this rule.
This from CNN news
Pilot, passengers jump to safety as skydiving planes collide - CNN.com (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/03/us/wisconsin-skydivers-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)

AdamFrisch
5th Nov 2013, 03:03
Thankfully all survived, but it's a scary sight. Glad the pilot of the Cessna breaking up happened to have a spare parachute. Not much time to get it on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFi7Dyyapc#t=48

cyflyer
5th Nov 2013, 04:14
From the video its obvious the pilot was totally distracted by the exit-ing parachutists, not looking front and forward at the other aircraft for ages, and flew slap bang into the other aircraft. The airplane that lands safely was the airplane/pilot at fault.

Ultralights
5th Nov 2013, 04:51
not sure about the USofA, but in ops im aware of in OZ, pilots of jump planes wear their chutes at all times when in the aircraft.

Tray Surfer
7th Nov 2013, 17:36
Heavens... That is scary.

Trim Stab
7th Nov 2013, 17:42
Agree that the lack of basic flying skills of the second aircraft is alarming. My guess is that the pilot is a parachutist who has a PPL.

gijoe
7th Nov 2013, 22:59
PPL? Based on what? CPL always better?

'not sure about the USofA, but in ops im aware of in OZ, pilots of jump planes wear their chutes at all times when in the aircraft.'

Also not the rule in the UK - pilot choice.

2 big smashes in the game within the 2 weeks probably mean it is time for a review of this by the BPA.

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