type 2 diabeties

[Scion]

Just for interest what is the UK CAA 's take on pre-diabeties and mild type 2 diabeties when fasting blood suger is between 6 and 7

In the antipodies we are finding an almost hysterical response with requests for medical tests including the serum rhubarb level.

Any similarities?

[Flying Bull]

Hi Scion,
No direct answer - but as far as I know, there are genetic resons, but most contributing is overweight and lack of sport combined with "wrong" food.
With a change of livestyle reduction of numbers are common.
Good luck

[horizon flyer]

I have suffered from type 2 now for many years, now 67 and passed all my medicals so far. My medical includes all my yearly blood tests with a fasting HB1aC of 7.5 or lower. I take metformine to lower blood sugar, accepted by the CAA. Not coma inducing. My eye test always includes a test of peripheral vision, have to count the little green dots. Plus a letter from my MD to say nothing else wrong with me. You do need to keep your weight down BMI below 25 and I always carry a few bananas when flying, just in case of low blood sugar.

The problems with type 11 is, if you go high sugar, puts you to sleep or go low, which makes you very jumpy and it's very hard to concentrate.

Longer term is eye damage if not in control.

So its all a case of being in control.

Best of luck.

[Mike Cross]

Flying with Diabetes (http://www.aopa.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=625&Itemid=581)

[Scion]

Horizon flyer
Much the same but I am not on medication , the HB1ac is 6.5 but they have asked for 3 months record of sugar 5 times a day, consultant eye exam, stress ecg and an endocrinologists report.

This is only for a ppl.

I reckon they are way over the top.

[slowjet]

Yes but it's all about the Medics maintaining full employment & huge profits for the pharmeceutical industry. Mate of mine was diagonosed with this, placed on double the recommended doseage of statins and nearly came to serious grief ! He really just had high sugar readings prior to a medical but went through serious stress coping with all the additional requirements; PSA. stress ECG etc. He ditched the wretched drugs & has lived in retirement bliss four some four years on mediterranean diet & lifestyle. Dropped 12kg by walking and taking stairs when offered the option. I agree, the medical profession's over-reaction to this condition has been far too agressive. A political issue exists too. A huge proportion of the population, we are told, have the condition but do not know it. A ticking time bomb, say the self interested, in medical health care costs in the future. Ok, hand out, can I have another £1 million for reasearch funding ? Oooooh, that new Porsche does look good in the front drive.

[dubbleyew eight]

Scion FFS what they are trying to determine is whether your condition is stable or whether you will be prone to runaway blood sugar excursions.
just do the necessary monitoring and get on with it.

[horizon flyer]

Scion In the UK 6.5 is regarded as marginal. They pulled back from going over board trying to reduce this level, as it can do more harm than good.

I would forget all the tests and spend the next 3 months reducing your
Hb1ac as this is a 90 day moving window, it takes that long for changes to occur.

At this number, diet could bring this below 6 in 90 days.
Then you would not be regarded as diabetic, problem solved.

Simple way, reduce weight, cut down on sugar & fat. Cut out fast absorbing carbs, like potatoes, don't eat, grapes, bananas, pineapple

or get a copy of "Say No to Diabetes by Patrick Holford".

Patrick suggests taking a chromium supplement, this boosts Kinase a co helper of Insulin. Thus helping cells absorb blood sugar.
Athletes us it to increase stamina.

I reduced from 11.8 to 8.5 in 90 days by diet before I knew about Patricks book.

Last get your eyes checked for any damage.

Best of luck.

[gingernut]

when fasting blood suger is between 6 and 7

Does that constitute diabetes ?

[horizon flyer]

Hi gingernut

6 no, 7 yes with 6.5 as a maybe normal is 4.5

A first test is a glucose tolerance test.

After a 12 hour fast measure blood sugar then take a measured amount of glucose, then take blood every 1/2 hour for about 3 hours and measure level.

When charted, this will show the rise and fall of sugar levels.

If it rises and falls as per normal then OK but still work on the diet.

If a bad result, work harder on diet and weight, may be need metformin and
chromium.

I believe everyone should assume they are pre-diabetic and reduce sugar input.

Type11 is a reduced sensitivity to insulin, the mitochondria in our cells do not respond very well to it. So insulin and blood sugar go up, which triggers the liver to convert spare blood sugar to fat, so putting on weight. But our cells are effectively starving, so you eat more carbs for quick energy and the downward spiral goes on.

How to help stop it.

It takes more than insulin, a chemical message that tells mitochondria to take up blood sugar.

The other is Kinase, which is based on the metal chromium. Without trace trivalent chromium in your diet, any mammal will become type11 diabetic, ask a vet, the diet experts.

Note Licking chrome plated car bumpers does not work.

400 to 1000mcg of Chromium Picolinate a day helps replace what's missing in our diet. Body builders use it to reduce fat and increase muscle plus athletes, to increase stamina. It can be found in most health food shops.

Most doctors don't know about, but it is always added when people are being fed by a drip or they go type11.

Hope theat answers a few questions

[Denti]

Was diagnosed with diabetes in January and immediately lost my medical. Had to do a stress ECG at the AMC, eye check and get a clean bill from a diabetes specialist who required schooling for a week, regular blood sugar measurements and put me on the maximum dose of metformin (2000mg a day) and advised me to do some workout, which for me is simply walking, preferrably in excess of 70km a week and eat healthy stuff. After about six weeks i had lost around 10kgs and lowered my HbA1c from 9.3 to 6.3 and got my medical back (albeit with a rather unwelcome addition of restrictions), my C-peptide value was still high, but my other blood values were all in the green for the first time in over 10 years. Another three months later my HbA1c was down to 5.4 and I was allowed to ditch half the metformin, having shed another 15 kgs. Last checkup I was down to 5.3 and told to no longer take any metformin, hope I get a unrestricted medical back next time I'm due. My fasting blood sugar is usually around 5 now without any medication.

Main thing I guess was just walking pretty much every day around 10km with that lowering my weight. It is not a bad idea to keep a healthy diet, not eating the on-board crew "meals" was probably the best thing I did, instead just taking some healthy stuff from home is more than enough.