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Maverick Laddie
31st Aug 2013, 18:58
The Exodus continues not just the Pilots but also the engineers isn't it about time BP asked why ????.

alouette
1st Sep 2013, 03:27
What's the discrepancy? :E

Heathrow Harry
1st Sep 2013, 08:49
What can they do?

Local company, they'll have to get permission from SONANGOL to make any changes and you can bet that the Directors & owners are VERY well connected in Luanda

Price you pay for working in such places I'm afraid

unstable load
1st Sep 2013, 09:23
HM are based up in Cabinda and operate the contract there for Chevron and have been for a while with little hassles.
The exodus from the BP job in Soyo is down to a different factor, I'd hazard. The machines are Sonair's and all spares ordering etc does go via Sonair, but scheduling and Ops etc are all down to HM.

Maverick Laddie
1st Sep 2013, 17:00
The Exodus at Heli Malongo BP isn't due to any contractual issues with SonAir it's simply Management and the way the operations run. Unstable as for Cabinda being hassle free I think you will find there turnover of jockeys was well into 30% to 40% of the workforce for the first part of last year well above the market average.

huey
2nd Sep 2013, 05:01
So with this mass exodus of pilots does this
mean they will be recruiting?
I'm desperate to get into off shore flying,
Any pointers?

Huey

driftwood1
2nd Sep 2013, 07:18
Are they chasing engineers by chance

unstable load
2nd Sep 2013, 07:27
Maverick Laddie,
I stand corrected, thanks. I was led to believe things were rosier there due to
the direct influence of Chevron.

SASless
2nd Sep 2013, 12:58
Wake up Lads.....the Oil Company could care less what is going on....so long as the Helicopters meet the scheduled flights and the oil keeps pumping.

How much turnover there is....how the Operator treats Staff....how miserable the Management is....how poor your living conditions are.....not their problem and not their concern.

They pay the Operator for a Service and as long as that Service is provided...then Bob's their Uncle.

Deal with it....or move on.....welcome to the Oil Patch!

Maverick Laddie
3rd Sep 2013, 04:48
SASless :

Whole context of the Thread they are leaving Pilots, Engineers, Three in one go all quit together.

MAV

SASless
3rd Sep 2013, 04:54
No big deal....there are Pilots and Engineers that will jump at the vacancies and the beat goes on.

As sad as it is.....it is what it is....nothing changes but the faces.

Not trying to be negative....just being a realist.

Helicopter work is Contract Work.....you live up to your end of the Contract and hope that the Operator lives up to theirs.....sometimes they do....sometimes they don't.

unstable load
3rd Sep 2013, 12:04
SAS,
Agreed about the nature of the job, but getting the wheels turning for an Angolan visa/validation etc is a matter of MONTHS not weeks like Nigeria, so if enough leave at the wrong time, the oil co. will get a short, sharp awakening....alas, a tad late.

SASless
3rd Sep 2013, 12:56
Yes.....and those that left are gone.

They are the ones looking for work and explaining why they left their previous employer.

In the short term the Oil Company will find a way to keep the oil flowing and the money coming in....and in a few months....a new crop of pilots and engneers will be in place to be worn down and either molded to fit or be driven down the road.

I have watched this scenario played out in several places over the past 40 years.

The trick is make the Oil Company have to make those alternative arrangements but keep your job at the same time. It is amazing what working to the Rule, Regulation, and SOP can do to a thriving Operation. That gets the Operator's attention far quicker than just packing yer Seabag and climbing onto the Dock.

The "We'll Show You....We Quit!" method doesn't help you....it helps the next tranche or two of Pilots and Engineers.....maybe!

unstable load
3rd Sep 2013, 20:40
Yes.....and those that left are gone.
Indeed, they are. Hopefully for them, on to pastures greener.
Mind you, we all know why the grass is greener......

alouette
4th Sep 2013, 07:32
Do we really know if the grass is greener...?:E

Maverick Laddie
5th Sep 2013, 05:00
In my time in aviation I've worked for some very competent companies who it has been a pleasure to work for and at the drop of a hat would return too if the opportunity were to offer its self. Then there's operations like Malongo's BP contract an accident waiting to happen, Yes the Grass can be Greener, Aviation is very much like a golf course acres and acres of rye with small patch's of well tended well managed greens.

SASless
5th Sep 2013, 06:02
Some have really nasty Hazards too!

Maverick Laddie
5th Sep 2013, 06:54
Oh yes some quite Famous Hazards who could forget the likes of the "Count" without the "O" still out there I believe given grief as he always did. One of the only men who could turn a once sort after operation into an Aviators Hell. :rolleyes:

ramos
11th Oct 2013, 16:26
Would someone actually explain what is happening at Malongo? Some of this is a little not to the point.

Is the management that much of a bunch of counts?

Cheers

A pm would be fine.

allwornout
5th Dec 2013, 11:17
Hello Rotorheads. December 2013. Has anyone got a current contact name and number and email address for the guy in charge of hiring 412 pilots for the Chevron contract at Heli Malongo?