Why does the E-3 ever bother getting a Radar service???

[Fintastic]

Surely they can see everything anyway......:confused:




.....just askin'

[Widger]

Nibble................nibble..............radar null zones.......nibble.............optimisation for range........nibble...........traffic situation............nibble..............radar control...............nibble........busy environment.......nibble..........civil airliners...........nibble........Approved Radar Status........nibble.........manpower..........


Bugga...I bit!

[Wyler]

Cos the back end is Mission specific and the front end is just another airliner. Won't bore you with other aspects of radar theory........:rolleyes:

[Pontius Navigator]

Put another way, why do some people wear belt and braces?

[Cows getting bigger]

Because the back end has never been trained how to stop aircraft bumping into each other. Traditionally they have relied on their not-so-well-honed skills for failing to achieve a merge. :)

If anyone wishes to talk to me, I'm off to the Naughty Seat. :eek:

[kbrockman]

Good question really, which begs for a follow up question;
Why do tankers need to land to refuel, they are tankers, why not just refuel themselves?
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[Roadster280]

Why do HMRC employees pay tax? Indeed any government employee. Seems ridiculous to collect tax from them to pay their wages. And employ some of them to do so.

If clothing is a C class store, why do you have to sign for it, and hand the old one in on exchange? Isn't that L class?

[Wensleydale]

At the height that it flies, the E-3 is nearly always in controlled airspace and has to receive a mandatory radar service from a recognised Air Traffic Control. However, the mission crew routinely dedicates one console to "AWACS Monitor" where the operator ensures that other aircraft in the vicinity do not infringe the radar "safety zone" (or gets close enough to impinge upon JTIDS radiation rules) - this is necessary to fulfil the aircraft's safety case so we do not "fry" any civvies going on their holibobs. Also, the radar has an "underfoot" as well as an overhead, and ground radar fills in the hole for ATC purposes.

Any more detail and I would have to shoot you.

[Lord Spandex Masher]

Good question really, which begs for a follow up question;
Why do tankers need to land to refuel, they are tankers, why not just refuel themselves?
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Ever seen a snake eat itself?

[teeteringhead]

And is there not a quotation - Goon Show perhaps? ...they were so poor that they eked out a precarious living by taking in each other's washing.

[Pontius Navigator]

Any more detail and I would have to shoot you.
Only if you hadn't been shot first!

[kbrockman]

Ever seen a snake eat itself?
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[ICM]

In the early 1970s, on flights in/out of Kwajalein, then busy with Sprint anti-ballistic missile trials, using large radar arrays perfectly capable of tracking launches from the US West Coast, I used to be tickled that there was no ATC radar and that all approaches were procedural using ADF/VOR/TACAN - I forget which.

[TorqueOfTheDevil]

In the early 1970s, on flights in/out of Kwajalein, then busy with Sprint anti-ballistic missile trials, using large radar arrays perfectly capable of tracking launches from the US West Coast, I used to be tickled that there was no ATC radar and that all approaches were procedural using ADF/VOR/TACAN - I forget which.


True but how dull would life be for a Zone/Radar Controller at Kwajalein! The weather and vis around the Marshalls must be some of the best on the planet! Even the wind is more or less constant!


Why do tankers need to land to refuel, they are tankers, why not just refuel themselves?

Yeah, and why is the Central Flying School of an island nation based so near the coast that there's a lighthouse on the roof?:confused:

[Easy Street]

Why is there only one Competition Commission?

[NutLoose]

And before that why only one monoply and mergers commission.

[Willard Whyte]

...all approaches were procedural using ADF/VOR/TACAN - I forget which. Lovely stuff, always preferred d.i.y. to vectors.

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Any more detail and I would have to shoot you.

Only if you hadn't been shot first!

Any more debrief detail from t'mission crew and the flight deck would be off to the nearest bar.

[SASless]

Cos the back end is Mission specific and the front end is just another airliner. Won't bore you with other aspects of radar theory........


But the RAF SAR Sea Kings....with their wonderful Radar....do it on their own don't they?

[ORAC]

Why does the E-3 ever bother getting a Radar service??? Why have a dog and bark yourself?

[Willard Whyte]

Might be one of those stupid little yappy dogs the size of a rat and about as welcome.