Future King

[Courtney Mil]

HRH the Duchess of York (big mistake - Cambridge as we all know. I am an idiot) - has given birth to a baby boy.

The baby was delivered at 16:24 BST, weighing 8lb 6oz, it was announced in a press release.

15 to 1. Worth a flutter.

Fantastic news!!! Congratulations to the proud parents and welcome to our future King!!!!!

:ok:

[ACW418]

Congratulations to all.

ACW

[85Shiney]

Has Fergie had one too!! :)

Duchess of Cambridge methinks

[Thone1]

Congratulations!

Finally.....

Tom

[CoffmanStarter]

Courtney ... that's going to cost you a few beers :ok:


Many congratulations :D:D:D:D

[Wensleydale]

A boy - as RAF Aircrew? He hasn't been flying enough!!!

Don't get at Courtney - everyone knows that York has primacy in all things so it was a natural slip to make!

[Herod]

everyone knows that York has primacy in all things

Rumour has it that, when GeorgeVI died, the Yorkshire Post headline was "Ex-Duke of York Dies". All to do with priorities.

As an aside, when was the last time we had an heir to the heir to the heir to the throne; or is this a first?

[TomJoad]

It's a baby, told you. Congrats etc.

[Kerosene Kraut]

Congratulations!

[Courtney Mil]

Tom,

You did indeed predict that. The only one to get it right. I was hoping for a girl or a really cute puppy. But, hey, it's a boy!

Coff et al,

Bugger. In my rush to to win at 15 to 1 I blew it. And it will be here on the record forever. What can I say? Except I had £1,000 on me. :ouch::mad::uhoh:

But, hey, it's a boy. Our future King.

[NutLoose]

Congratulations.... :D

A good 25 years from now he may be able to fly the F-35 on entry into service.. :}

[TomJoad]

Tom,

You did indeed predict that. The only one to get it right. I was hoping for a girl or a really cute puppy. But, hey, it's a boy!

Coff et al,

Bugger. In my rush to to win at 15 to 1 I blew it. And it will be here on the record forever. What can I say? Except I had £1,000 on me. :ouch::mad::uhoh:

But, hey, it's a boy. Our future King.


Oh it was just a bit on a hunch Courtney. Thank God it wasn't a puppy, that would have made for a barking King.

[TomJoad]

Congratulations.... :D

A good 25 years from now he may be able to fly the F-35 on entry into service.. :}

Funny:D:D:D:D:D:D

[BEagle]

Congrats to William and Kate!!

Dare I say it - I remember where I was when William's birth was announced....

[Courtney Mil]

a barking King

First time for everything.

[TOWTEAMBASE]

If you think duchess of York is bad ......some foreign geezer on sky news said " the news is it's a black boy" ...... The lovely kate ran away. He's Probably locked in the tower now. Off with his head :-)

[unclenelli]

62-Gun Salute in London at 2pm tomorrow.


WTF!!!!!!
Hasn't someone told them they're trying to get a baby down!!!!!

[Wensleydale]

when was the last time we had an heir to the heir to the heir to the throne;
or is this a first?


The last time was the birth of Edward VIII during the reign of Queen Victoria.

[Courtney Mil]

And let's not forget the happy grandparents. Congratulations to Michael and Carole Middleton.

[Herod]

Hi Wensleydale. Yep, I just realised that, and you beat me to it.

[TomJoad]

And let's not forget the happy grandparents. Congratulations to Michael and Carole Middleton.

Good call - yes indeed congrats.:D:D

[TomJoad]

First time for everything.

George III?

[Two's in]

Seems like a lot of trouble to go through just to get a 2 bedroom MQ at Valley.

[cargosales]

Congratulations.... :D

A good 25 years from now he may be able to fly the F-35 on entry into service.. :}

Funny:D:D:D:D:D:D

Sorry to disagree Tom but Nutty's being incredibly over-optimistic rather than funny, wouldn't you say?

Whatever .. good luck to the new sprog. Until he dons dark blue or green/brown that is, whereupon he's fair game :E

[54Phan]

Yes, congratulations to the parents. I wonder what Father Christmas will bring him for his first?

[thing]

Best wishes to the parents and grandparents (and great grandparents!) Can't say I would want to be in the snapper's shoes but there you go, accident of birth and all that.

Edit: just watching the news and some grovelling royal commentator is saying how they should be left to live a normal life while youngster is growing up. How about starting by getting off the air then?

[500N]

I think he is better placed than Charles ever was.

Hopefully his personality will mean he is like William or Harry
and be able to take advantage of more freedom.

As an example, would Charles have ever purchased and ridden
a high performance Motorbike like William did or does, riding
it through London anonymously ?

[thing]

As an example, would Charles have ever purchased and ridden
a high performance Motorbike like William did or does, riding
it through London anonymously ?

Well he doesn't anymore...

[500N]

thing

Did he sell it ?

It wasn't that long ago he rode it to a soccer game in the park near his house.

[thing]

I meant he doen't ride it anonymously anymore...wooosh...

[500N]

I think it was the Sun that blew it.

Then again, just look for the Rangy :O

[thing]

Off to Oz tomorrow to escape but according to Oz son it's just as bad over there. I shall pierce my eardrums.

[500N]

It's not too bad.

Mainly the lovey dovey Breakfast programs.

It will all be over in a few days or by the time you get here.

[sisemen]

Shall chuck a roo steak on the barbie and wash it down with a few tinnies. Ripper. :ok:

[Al R]

.. bittersweet that they had a few hours together before breaking the news. Cherished memories of normality and peace before losing it forever.

Warmest congrats to them all and I hope they max out the Junior ISA.

[alisoncc]

Just a general question. If Kate, Wills and Sproglet head off to Bucklebury straight from St Mary's is Aunty Betty likely to visit there? And has she visited before?

Is there any traditional custom relating to new born royalty being presented to the Queen at Buck House, and is there a requirement for the Speaker of the House of Parliament to be officially informed? Again a tradition thing.

[Fareastdriver]

The Speaker is probably on some foreign junket so will be uncontactable.

[Whenurhappy]

The Speaker can be contacted via his wife's Twitter account...

On second thoughts, her feed isn't taking any posts "for legal reasons".

Congrats to the couple from a fellow RAF Officer.

[air pig]

Yes, congratulations to the parents. I wonder what Father Christmas will bring him for his first?

His own Air Force, just a few years before he can play with it.

Congratulations to both.

[1.3VStall]

Air pig, I just hope there's an Air Force left for him to play with when he's old enough!

[ricardian]

Alisoncc said Is there any traditional custom relating to new born royalty being presented to the Queen at Buck House, and is there a requirement for the Speaker of the House of Parliament to be officially informed? Again a tradition thing.
It was once customary for the Home Secretary, as a senior member of the Cabinet, to attend royal births to ensure the new arrival was a genuine descendant of the monarch and had not an imposter smuggled in.

[GreenKnight121]

Just a general question. If Kate, Wills and Sproglet head off to Bucklebury straight from St Mary's is Aunty Betty likely to visit there? And has she visited before?

Is there any traditional custom relating to new born royalty being presented to the Queen at Buck House, and is there a requirement for the Speaker of the House of Parliament to be officially informed? Again a tradition thing.

William & Kate have a nice apt in Kensington Palace currently under decoration (Apartment 1A, last occupied by the quintessentially regal Princess Margaret), they will be staying in Nottingham Cottage (on the grounds of KP) until it is ready. And yes, HRH is scheduled to visit them there within a couple of days.


It was once customary for the Home Secretary, as a senior member of the Cabinet, to attend royal births to ensure the new arrival was a genuine descendant of the monarch and had not an imposter smuggled in.

Ended emphatically by HRH Elizabeth and Prince Phillip at the birth of Charles. It seems Phillip hinted that requiring a witness other than himself and the medical staff would impugn his honor (or some such thing), and the then-Princess Elizabeth appealed to "Daddy" to order a change in policy.

Or so the story goes.

[Bollotom]

Evening all. Just a question of curious interest. I do believe that the RN have been given the order "Splice the mainbrace". Do the RAF and Army have a similar celebratory eqivalence? :cool:

[unclenelli]

Didn't that last happen at BZN a few years ago when the Press outed Harry for being in Afghan?
He returned to Brize and the Press were only too happy to record his return to the UK to be met by Dad & Bro!


The Press now seem to be denying their involvement in his outing by saying the last time 3 heirs were present happened in the Victorian era!

[cuefaye]

Bottom

Used to go along the lines, 'Well done, bottoms up, let's get p**sed'

[unclenelli]

Apparently he has Kate's Looks.

I can see his Great Granny's ( & Great Great Granny's) wave is already perfected, but his hair is definitely his Dad's!

[Mach Two]

Cuefaye,

Just an observation or more of a question. You often seem quite bitter. Do you have issues with people here, people that you may or may not know, or am I taking your remarks the wrong way? Just curious.

Regards to all,

M2

[blind pew]

Uncle's visit?
Visiting Chelsea pensioners yesterday when two Apaches passed overhead in loose formation and low level heading NE.
:ok:

[500N]

I wonder if Kate will take it to Wales for a couple of days
so they can show the Williams work mates.

I wonder if he'll take him for his first ride
in one of the Helos ?

[CoffmanStarter]

500N ... I'm sure the celebrations have already started ... and a certain F/L will probably find a couple of barrels on his Mess Bill next month :ok:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01770/SNN2407DD---_1770263a.jpg

Not so sure on a flight just yet ... anyway good to see he is becoming accustomed to being strapped into a Bang Seat so early :ok:

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/ay_114826521.jpg?w=650&h=471&crop=1#038;h=726

According to the Press ... The print on the shawl is of a "Bird" :)

Best ...

Coff.

[500N]

I saw the video and thought it was pretty good.

Only "a couple of barrels" ? :O

He did seem to handle the seat well, I say get them started early :O

[Fareastdriver]

I see that his name is George. Must be something to do with aviation.

[NutLoose]

#49 (permalink)

I wonder if Kate will take it to Wales for a couple of days
so they can show the Williams work mates.




It's not an It, "it" is a him...

Hope Brittax are ramping up seat production..

[CoffmanStarter]

Fareastdriver ...

Apart from the obvious reference to the "auto pilot" :ooh:

Sir George Robert Freeman Edwards

Beginning as a design draughtsman in 1935, he was promoted in 1940 to Experimental Department Manager and in 1945 he became the Chief Designer of the Vickers-Armstrongs team that produced the Viking airliner, Valetta military transport, Varsity trainer, Viscount airliners and Valiant strategic bomber. He later became Managing Director of the company, supervising the development of the Vanguard, VC10 and (post-merger) BAC TSR-2 strike bomber. He was knighted in 1957. He was President of the Royal Aeronautical Society in 1957-8.

:ok:

[CoffmanStarter]

Just a thought ...

In say 50 to 60 years time, when HRH Prince George of Cambridge becomes King George VII, let's hope we still have a Royal Air Force for him to sign in the top left-hand corner those very special documents containing those very special words ...

To our Trusty and Well Beloved ....... ....... Greeting:

We, reposing especial Trust and Confidence in your Loyalty, Courage, and good Conduct ...

Those future Officers are probably at least two generations away from being born :eek:

Most of us will be long gone ... although I can think of a few who will still haunt PPRuNe from the "beyond" :)

[teeteringhead]

when HRH Prince George of Cambridge becomes King George VII, ... or just possibly King George VIII ....

..... one has heard rumours that his grandfather (Charles) is not wildly impressed with Charleses 1 & 2, so was thinking of taking George (one of his names) as his title.

After all, Geo VI (aka Colin Firth!) was Albert Frederick Arthur George, and always known in the family as "Bertie". For that matter, his big brother Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor was Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David (all the patron saints - geddit?) and known as "David"

[ex-fast-jets]

Stop those negative vibes................

Most of us will be long gone ... although I can think of a few who will still haunt PPRuNe from the "beyond" Agree with your sentiment - but only those who use carcinogen cooking materials fall into that category!

Surely those of us on gas will last for ever!!

Well at least until George VII (or VIII. or IX!!) is in control!!

[CoffmanStarter]

TH ... Thanks for that ... You are clearly very well connected old chap :ok:

[CoffmanStarter]

BomberH :D:D:D:D

Although expect "incoming" :E

[DX Wombat]

good to see he is becoming accustomed to being strapped into a Bang Seat so early I'm sure HRH Flt Lt Wales has his baby's safety as a priority but whoever showed the baby's parents how to strap him in should be subject to disciplinary action. He is most UNSAFE like that. Heaven forbid there was an accident as he could very easily be thrown out or killed by the loose straps strangling or hanging him. He should have been unwrapped from his shawl, placed in the seat and the straps tightened so that only a couple of fingers could be inserted between the straps and the baby. Then, and only then, could the shawl have been tucked around him. If anyone is in a position to pass on this information I should be very pleased if you would do so. I have many years of sending home newborn babies from hospital and was responsible for the introduction in our area of car seats for the transfer of babies in ambulances so I do know how to strap in a baby.
The straps should be checked for correct fitting each time the seat is used as the baby will not always be wearing the same clothes and a difference in thickness can affect the strap settings.

[CoffmanStarter]

DXW ... Fair point ... I certainly didn't get the car seat right first time some twenty years ago today with Master Coff.

[DX Wombat]

CS, it really worries me that parents are still not taught/shown how to strap in the baby safely. Baby seats have changed a great deal in the past few years and most now have a single, long strap below the central buckle and this strap is pulled to tension the others correctly. The little lad could also do with some form of head support to stop it wobbling around or dropping forward onto his chest causing a kink in his airway. Baby seats of twenty years ago usually had to have each strap adjusted individually - a right pain. :* I better stop now before I bore you all. How can you tell I have a real thing about car safety for children?
Happy 20th birthday to CS Son. :)

[500N]

'Thrilled' uncle Prince Harry may have been there last night after racing back from duties with the RAF .......


Pity they still get this wrong.

[Gerontocrat]

I don't know how many times I have sent messages to the back bench at the Mail about this.
Once is a mistake, twice is incompetence, many is ignorance.
Bear in mind, also, even very senior people at the Mail can be severely ignorant - used in it's proper sense.
New Year's honours list 1992 and the deputy editor of the Mail - duty editor - called the then-defence and aerospace specialist correspondent while he was on Christmas leave.
"There's been a major disaster involving the military and the MoD refuses to admit it. As usual, they're lying. Find out, now, what the hell has happened and file the story." quoth said deputy-editor.
"What are you on about?" says the Def & Aero correspondent.
"" Well the honours list is out and there's all these senior officers, such as Brigadier ****, late Royal Engineers, and Colonel **** late Black Watch," etc, "
Def & Aero Corr (Army ret'd), at home with his parents (father Army ret'd), sister (Army serving) and brother-in-law (Army serving), trying not to gently wet themselves at this, just says, "I'll get back to yoü," but there's nothing here to worry about."
You really have to wonder, though, don't you. To have reached deputy-editor of a major Fleet Street newspaper, he MUST have seen the honours list many times before!!

[500N]

I think what gets them confused is William is in the RAF and flies Helicopters
and Harry flies Helicopters so must be in the RAF. If that makes sense !!!

And with the internet, 30 seconds to check.

[Gerontocrat]

And just a couple of seconds more to check that Wattisham is no longer RAF Wattisham. In the last message I sent I did point out that there are a couple of clues to help them get it right: 1) Prince Harry's uniform; 2) his rank - Capt. Wales, not Flt Lt Wales; and the fact that Prince Harry flies an Apache attack helicopter - a type not flown by the RAF. I don't know if there are any exchange drivers.
With all that and the availability of all sorts of interweb-thingy means of checking, the current subs must be bears of very little brain indeed to keep getting the whole thing wrong.
Oh, and there is also the tiny matter of a one-hour long documentary on Capt Wales last tour in Afghanistan - something which the Mail, inter alia, took great pains to report.

[500N]

I hadn't thought of those other cross references.

A lot of the media people are not journos anymore,
just reporters who re hash what they are given or
told to say. And as you say, those at the top don't
know or can't be bothered checking - or even knowing
the subject, then it's no wonder.

[cargosales]

I don't know how many times I have sent messages to the back bench at the Mail about this.
Once is a mistake, twice is incompetence, many is ignorance.


I couldn't agree more. Why do you waste your time persisting in sending them messages when they ignore them? Once was indeed a mistake but I'll not call you incompetent for sending a second or the subsequent ones.. merely 'misguided'

To think that the Daily Wail is serious about responsible, let alone accurate, journalism is a grave mistake. May I suggest that you take a proper newspaper instead?

CS

[alisoncc]

placed in the seat and the straps tightened so that only a couple of fingers could be inserted between the straps and the baby.But not so tight as to prevent him getting to the handle:

http://d1.static.dvidshub.net/media/thumbs/photos/1202/526044/300x450_q75.jpg

[500N]

All we need now is a photo of the baby in it's carrier strapped into the helo :ok:

Just for a laugh !

[DX Wombat]

I'm sure that can be arranged. :E

[racedo]

Yes, congratulations to the parents. I wonder what Father Christmas will bring him for his first?

Somewhere to exercise the horses probably.....................

Buckinghamshire.

[Gerontocrat]

All I can say, is to echo Elvis Presley : "I was that soldier".

[racedo]

It seems Phillip hinted that requiring a witness other than himself and the medical staff would impugn his honor (or some such thing),

More like he threatened to lay out said Home Secretary.

Said Home Secretary was
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Chuter_Ede
who probably saw Queen Victoria in his lifetime.

[muppetofthenorth]

In the last message I sent I did point out that there are a couple of clues to help them get it right: 2) his rank - Capt. Wales, not Flt Lt Wales;

I look forward to their next article proclaiming Harry to be serving in the RN ;)

[racedo]

I look forward to their next article proclaiming Harry to be serving in the RN http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wink2.gif

There still is one ?
You mean all the cutbacks haven't happened yet ?

[gr4techie]

Interesting article in The i (Independent lite). About the ridiculous sensationalism in the media and the idea of a hereditary ruler is as ridiculous as a hereditary mathematician.

The best quote was "In the shanty towns of São Paulo, the destitute stopped begging to mark the event, declaring: "The breaking of the royal waters certainly puts our trifles into perspective".

Now merchandise is on sale. Royal baby mugs, tea towels :ugh:

[[email protected]]

Perhaps we can look forward to a special edition of the 22 Sqn Badge since young George had the nous to arrive on the 22nd:) Shame there won't be a 22 Sqn (unless it is reallocated) by the time he is 3!

[Wander00]

Says it all really!http://www.private-eye.co.uk/pictures/covers/small/1345.jpg (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/current_issue.php?)

[Warmtoast]

Well according to a letter in The Times, those who envisage a long procession of male monarchs stretching into the 22nd century following the recent birth of Will's and Kate's Prince George will need to think again: ‘It is true that Princes William and now George are in line to the throne, but in the UK we have direct succession. So, if by some calamity the Queen were to be predeceased by her son, Charles, before he ascends to the throne,’ (perhaps by talking to one of his plants at ‘Highgrove’ that turns out to be a Triffid, that despatches him with it’s venomous sting.) ‘with the Queen still on the throne and Charles gone her direct descendant and heir would be Prince Andrew, with his eldest daughter becoming heir apparent.’

So if by chance ‘Air Miles’ Andrew became King, he would in due course be succeeded by his eldest daughter Bea as Queen Beatrice — and to add to the excitement his ex-wife Fergie would become ‘Queen Mother’ — a thrilling prospect!

Just thought you should know!

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/AndyampFergie_zpsa3dfa538.jpg

[Milo Minderbinder]

No - if Charles died, William becomes next in line. The direct lineage through Charles still takes precedence, even if he is dead. If Charles and William died, the baby would be next in line. Then Harry, and then Andrew.

[lj101]

THE LINE OF SUCCESSION TOP TEN
Line of Succession as at July 2013

SOVEREIGN
1. The Prince of Wales
2. The Duke of Cambridge
3. Prince George of Cambridge
4. Prince Henry of Wales
5. The Duke of York
6. Princess Beatrice of York
7. Princess Eugenie of York
8. The Earl of Wessex
9. Viscount Severn
10. The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor

[Heathrow Harry]

maybe we should have a rule that when you drop out of the top 7 you lose your title etc

[Buster Hyman]

William will be the next King of England. Mark my words... ;)

[500N]

You reckon ?

You reckon Charles will be bypassed or will pass it over to his son
so he can live a quiet life with Camilla ?

[Wrathmonk]

William will be the next King of England.

Might be a safer bet to say our next King will not be Charles. There has been plenty of "gossip" about that suggests he (Charles) will be crowned King George VII rather than King Charles III.

[Buster Hyman]

You reckon ?
Yep. As predicted by an Indian Seer in the 50's.