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peanut
27th Jun 2013, 09:08
This came out a week ago -
Letter to all holders of charter air operator's certificates on the legislative requirements surrounding closed charter and regular public transport (http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/aoc/download/letter-charter-air-ops-certificates.pdf)

This is the main bit ---

"In light of the implications of the Caper decision for some charter operators, CASA will consider applications for authorisation to conduct RPT operations, subject to approvals and/or exemptions of the kind mentioned above, where the aircraft involved have a seating capacity of not more than 9 seats and a Maximum Take-off weight (MTOW) of not more than 8,618 kg. With a view to the expected adoption of Part 135 of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations 1998 (Australian air transport operations-small aeroplanes), which is slated to come into effect toward the end of 2014, CASA will give especial consideration to applications for interim RPT authorisations, subject to conditions effectively reflecting compliance with the requirements that will govern operations under proposed Part 135 of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations 1998 (CASR).2 Proposed CASR Part 135 will enhance passenger safety by specifying requirements for small aeroplanes engaged in passenger carrying operations- primarily those engaged in what is today classified as charter operations- that are similar to those governing RPT operations.
Charter operators considering applying for an AOC authorising RPT operations in circumstances of the kind mentioned above should carefully consider:

• all relevant requirements under the regulations currently governing RPT operations, from full compliance with which they would need to seek an exemption or from which an approval to deviate would be necessary;

• what they would be required to do in order to meet standards corresponding to those specified in proposed CASR Part 135; and

• the benefits, as well as the demands, involved in moving to comply with those standards in advance of their adoption in the legislation, as conditions on an authorisation to conduct RPT operations that might be available in the interim."

a bit of common sense for a change

601
27th Jun 2013, 12:19
a bit of common sense for a change

It may appear to be common sense, but wait until the first application hits a desk in CAsA.

thorn bird
27th Jun 2013, 14:48
Hey guys, part 135 if adopted will make it so safe that nobody will be able to afford it. it will be cheaper to charter aircraft into Australia from NZ or Singapore who have sensible ICAO compliant regulations.

LeadSled
27th Jun 2013, 16:35
Folks,
Just have a look that the aerodrome standard, alone, in Part 135, and try and figure out how many airfields in ERSA comply in every respect.
And that is just one aspect of draft Part 135. Thorn Bird is spot on.
Tootle pip!!

Creampuff
27th Jun 2013, 21:23
The 'implications of the Caper decision' could be dealt with by actually producing an outcome on classification of operations 'reform'.

Let’s call this dog’s breakfast “CHARPTER”. :ok:

peanut
28th Jun 2013, 03:07
I can't see any major changes in Part 135 for aerodromes

from CAsA site (http://www.casa.gov.au/SCRIPTS/NC.DLL?WCMS:PWA::pc=PARTS135)

"Aerodrome requirements under Part 135 will be similar to the requirements under the current CAR 92 where it is the operators responsibility to be satisfied that the aerodrome is suitable as a place to take off and land."

relevant sect

135.215 Aerodrome requirements—smaller aeroplanes
(1) The operator and the pilot in command of an aeroplane with a maximum take-off weight of not more than 5 700 kg each commit an offence if the aeroplane takes off from, or lands at, an aerodrome that does not meet the following requirements:
(a) the aerodrome must be suitable for the aeroplane to take-off from and land at;
(b) the aerodrome must be:
(i) an aerodrome that complies with the standards prescribed by a legislative instrument issued under regulation 135.025 for this subparagraph that relate to the aeroplane and its operation for the flight; or
(ii) an aerodrome specified in the operator’s exposition.
Note for consultation
The standards mentioned in subparagraph (1) (b) (i) are currently set out in Chapter 13 of the Part 139 Manual of Standards.


and I can't see much difference between CAAP 92.1 (http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/download/caaps/ops/92_1.pdf) and Chapter 13 of the Part 139 Manual of Standards (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2012C00280/Html/Volume_2)

am I missing something?

LeadSled
7th Jul 2013, 03:15
The standards mentioned in subparagraph (1) (b) (i) are currently set out in Chapter 13 of the Part 139 Manual of Standards.

Peanut,
You have not looked closely enough at the above, and assessed these requirements against many actual landing strips where a "charter" aircraft can now go.

Start off with ERSA and what is actually on the ground pilots and operators responsibility to ensure compliance), then work your way through the AOPA Aerodrome Guide, and work out how many would be excluded, that are now used for charter.

Tootle pip!!