The Hawker 800's birthday went unnoticed

[Wbarnato]

Arguably the most successful postwar British aircraft design went unnoticed!

On Sunday the 26th May the Hawker 800 was 30 years old. The only thing I could find about it was here:

How a design remained contemporary (http://www.allaero.com/news/how-a-design-remained-contemporary)

Sad that it wasn't even acknowledged!

[redsnail]

I was busy flying the machine. :ok:

Our Fleet Manager sent out something for the HS125's 50th though :)

[barry lloyd]

Perhaps if it was still being built in Britain instead of being taken to the US and abandoned, it would have been celebrated as it should have been

[Wbarnato]

Redsnail - I noticed a number of organisations paid tribute to the50th anniversary last year including Hawker Beechcraft, which wasironic as it pulled the plug a few weeks later!

Which fleet are you - if you don't mind me asking?

[redsnail]

I fly the 800XP with the Collins Proline 21.
Also fly the H750 as well.

[Wbarnato]

I see. Not wishing to go too off topic does having the luggage pannier makes much differences? Obviously to fly you're carting around less weight, but do passengers prefer or notice having extra luggage capacity?

[Wbarnato]

Is the 750 actaully popular with passengers? I understand it has the pania for extra luggage but do passengers notice? Does it make for a better flight for pilots?

[redsnail]

It's an awkward space. Very hard to fit any thing very bulky. It fits our crew cases and the extra TKS bottles. It's also handy for putting the boxes of bottled water in too. There's no discernible difference in handling. Most pax wouldn't notice it.
Downside is we lose 1500 lb of fuel and the MTOM reduced to 27,000lb.

[buzzc152]

Sad that it wasn't even acknowledged

Actually, we all had a big party to celebrate, we just didn't invite you. :hmm:

[CL300]

Everybody will celebrate when this "aircraft" will be terminated for good !!!:yuk:

[silverknapper]

What bull**** you spout

[buzzc152]

There is a reason the Hawker has endured for so long.....

[ewe.lander]

CL300 - tosspot, what's your favourite Aircraft and maybe I'll apologise......:}

[CL300]

Flew the -400 -600 -600 -800XP, hate them all...
Flew the GII, loved it, the GIII, not that much, GIV yuk..
Flew the Falcon 10/100 ,loved it, the 20..hmmm F series yes, the 200, loved the engines, the 50..hmmm, the 50EX yes!!!, the 900B, hmmm;2000EXy, yes when you do not work with morons; 7X , early numbers hmm any time above 50 ft AGL great plane..new numbers apparently sorted..
Flew the Glex early numbers..hmmm now, yes it is a bird
Test flew the Challenger 300, yes this is a good design
Flew the Lears, 24 and 25 yes ( but i was young and idiot (last part did not change much) ); 31A loved it

The Horizon, test flew it... not it is binned, very good decision.

So now what is left, i have a demo scheduled for 2000LXS and a Gulfstream 650..let's see these..


All in all; Learjet 31A and Falcon 50EX...

[ewe.lander]

Nope, won't apologise then, though respect your experience and right to a view!

[gaunty]

Not surprised.

The HS 125 4BRA was a great little bird, it was all downhill from there.

Aviation lore has it that a Hawker is the fastest way you can get to the nearest MRO.:E

[navstar1]

Operated all series from the 1 to the 800XP over 30 years. Wonderful aircraft and difficult to remember any time they let us down. Not the same with the new generation of VERY expensive replacements always expecting the call "it will not start!!" Progress perhaps not??:sad:

[Evanelpus]

The Product, as is everything built by BAe, was over engineered but very reliable.

The Company - BAe Corporate Jets was raped by Raytheon and left hung out to dry by Beechcaft.

Thanks for :mad:all:D