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MattBAe146
23rd May 2013, 12:58
Good Afternoon everyone, I'm hoping to get some advice on an item in my aviation collection. Hopefully there will be some knowledgeable person who will be able to help in some way. I'm not sure who I'm looking for really, an Swiss Aviation Historian perhaps? I don't like having something covered in mystery that's all.

Long story short I have obtained via Zurich Airport a piece of very cool history that for my personal interest I would like to find out.
It's a Speed Reference Manual for the Avro Regional Jet 146-RJ100 (The updated version of the BAe146-300) dated from August 1993.

Now the person who has given this to me said they were given it by a now passed away Swiss Air pilot and thus wasn't 100% sure of it's origins only that it was definitely placed onboard a Switzerland registered aircraft.
The chances are very very strong that it is from a Crossair aircraft (all Crossair aircraft transferred to Swiss when they were bought out) however the first Crossair RJ100 didn't arrive until 1995.

I know what all the things on the front cover mean except one thing "OSH 256" I thought I had the answer because one of the early Crossair RJ100 had the factory serial number LN:259
so I thought 256 might be the serial number but only to find out that there is no aircraft with that serial number http://www.jetva.co.uk/forum/Smileys/default/undecided.gif
This manual was removed from an RJ100 at some point it's just a question of finding out which RJ100! http://www.jetva.co.uk/forum/Smileys/default/tongue.gif

Even if it has come from a Crossair RJ100 it's still got a lot of sentimental attachment to me as not forgetting that it was Crossair's RJ100 HB-IXM that so sadly crashed on approach to runway 28 in 2001 killing 24 of the 33 passengers onboard.
Air Crash Investigation - Season 10 - Cockpit Failure - FULL - YouTube

Here are some photos:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BAe-146-Avro-RJ100-Manual-Cockpit-Speed-Booklet-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/6SUAAOxyJs5Rc~p5/$T2eC16RHJF8FFpvWqjVQBRc+p4Melg~~60_12.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BAe-146-Avro-RJ100-Manual-Cockpit-Speed-Booklet-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/iOQAAOxyhlJRc~p8/$T2eC16hHJF0FFZ3rupMbBRc+p7uvo!~~60_12.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BAe-146-Avro-RJ100-Manual-Cockpit-Speed-Booklet-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/xOkAAOxyPLpRc~qA/$%28KGrHqUOKpwE7KYr!JwhBRc+p+R%29Sg~~60_12.JPG

Here is the crossair fleet: Crossair Fleet | Airfleets aviation (http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Crossair.htm)

Thanks very much indeed and hopefully I can get any info on this at all.
Kind Regards,
Matt B

safetypee
26th May 2013, 20:11
Matt, the photo shows a ‘standard’ BAe published speed-card book for an Avro RJ 100. AFAIK these were never aircraft specific, instead they related to the performance section of the flight manual (AFM), which more normally was associated with operators, but not uniquely.
OSH 256 is more likely to have been a tech pubs reference, but still could (confusingly) reference a particular aircraft. Crossair in particular, as some or all ? of their RJ100 aircraft were modified to enable flap 30/33 take off, but the card shown does not indicate that.
Re 256, aircraft E2256 was a RJ 85 D-AVRA operated by LH City Line.

The AFM always related to a specific aircraft via mod number pages, and thence the manufacturers build number. A BAe aircraft reference would have been E3291 (HB-IXH). I forget what E was, but ‘3’ relates to a series 300 ‘146’, but ‘291’ was a RJ100. All RJs were certificated under the 146 title; confusing, but it made sense to BAe and UK CAA.

Conclusion; RJ 100, pre flap mods, build number unknown, but max weight on the card may provide a clue.

MattBAe146
26th May 2013, 20:51
Hi safetypee,

Thank you very much for your reply and very interesting too.
Certainly was very intrigued to read about the Crossair flap modifications.

As I said before, it's been sent to me from Zürich airport and should be in my possession from the beginning of next week (Monday onwards).
Just I've been so interested in it I really wanted to get some opinions.

On the front cover it does say from 27000-36000kg yet another photo shows 45000kg so when it arrives I'll have a closer look and also look for any further markings and post back with any further info.

Thanks once again I really do appreciate your help.
All the best,
Matt

MattBAe146
27th May 2013, 09:22
Morning again! The speed manual has today arrived.

Inside the front cover it says:

Introduction

The data contained in this booklet is taken from the RJ100 Flight Manual (Document 4.1)

These tables are intended for use in average temperature conditions but corrections to VR and V2 speeds are provided for other conditions if required.

From the front of the booklet data is presented every 1000kg from 27000 kg to 36000 kg and from the back from 37000kg to 46000kg.

All speeds are knots IAS.
And inside the back cover it says:

© BRITISH AEROSPACE PLC
1993
All rights reserved


This document has been produced as a general guide for operational purposes but in no way supersedes specific information in approved aircraft operational publications or technical documents from the aircraft Flight Manual, including current amendments.

This document is the copyright of British Aerospace PLC and is supplied on the express condition that no use may be made thereof other than that expressly authorised.




Prepared by:
Operations Support,
Customer Service
British Aerospace,
Hatfield. AL10 9NE
England

printed in England


And that's about it really, hope that might help in some way.
All the best,
Matthew