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Corvallis
28th Apr 2013, 07:26
Just wondering if anyone has made up a flowchart for a charter operation. The new rules come into action in a couple of days. They seem a bit more complex than the previous ones.

Horatio Leafblower
28th Apr 2013, 08:23
Only mandatory in 2016 mate. Don't panic. Ask your Chief Pilot :ok:

compressor stall
28th Apr 2013, 08:47
I started making up a flow chart for our cao48 exemption. I didn't get far before I ran out of room. It multiplies very very quickly.

Horatio Leafblower
28th Apr 2013, 08:49
...because making it more complex makes it safer.

Aparrently.

Defenestrator
28th Apr 2013, 09:28
Only mandatory in 2016 mate. Don't panic. Ask your Chief Pilot


Or when the companies current instrument to operate under the exemption expires.

D

Horatio Leafblower
28th Apr 2013, 11:01
From the Commlaw (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2013L00628/Explanatory%20Statement/Text) site:

As such, it repeals CAO Part 48 from 30 April 2016. The repeal of CAO 48.0 will result in the lapsing of all exemptions made under it.

Para 4 deals with Transitional arrangements.

To summarise:


If you currently have an AOC, the current/old arrangements will continue until 30 April 2016 unless you elect otherwise.
If you have applied for an AOC before 30 April 2013, which is subsequently granted after, the current/old arrangements will also continue unless you elect otherwise.
If you apply for an AOC after 30 April 2013, bad luck you'd better wrap your head around it.


The flight crew obligation to monitor one's own fatigue and report if necessary is effective 30 April 2013.

NIK320
28th Apr 2013, 13:03
Nice work there by CASA...


The cumulative duty accrued by an FCM during any consecutive 336 hour (14 day) period must not exceed 100 hours.

50 hour work weeks are not in the slightest bit fatiguing...
I can see how making us work more hours a week increases safety :ugh:

601
29th Apr 2013, 13:11
Basic Limits - no work before 0700 and max 45 hrs a week.:ok:

Now the bugs get to sleep in and not be woken by those pesky ag operators.

Arm out the window
29th Apr 2013, 23:37
I don't think it will worry the ag guys - they seem to have a great bunch of orders authorising them to do the things they need to do.

Good on them, as I understand it they've worked hard over the years to have applicable CAOs and the like published to fit in with what they actually do.

185skywagon
30th Apr 2013, 00:06
As I read it, the ag flight and duty will be rescinded. :(

Horatio Leafblower
30th Apr 2013, 01:00
no work before 0700 and max 45 hrs a week

Yeah not quite

You can sign on before 0700 but with restrictions on the length of shift.

The vast majority of existing operators will be able to adjust to Tier 2 very easily, as it is very similar to many of the existing Standard industry exemptions.

Those choosing to transition early will be forced to accept some commercial disadvantage in the form of slightly reduced flexibility.

601
30th Apr 2013, 22:56
Yeah not quite

If an Operator elects to only operate to Appendix 1 - Basic Limits, (ss 10.2 or ss 11.2) there is no sign-on before 0700 local (Appendix 1 para 2.1.)

601
15th May 2013, 07:35
The following breakfast briefing sessions are being held for industry to introduce awareness on the new CAO 48.1 fatigue management for flight crew members. These face-to-face briefings will give air operators an overview of details of the instrument, explain the flexibility provided by the legislation, discuss operator and individual responsibilities and provide an opportunity to ask questions and raise issues relating to fatigue management.

3 July 2013 7:30 AM to 9:30 AM Brisbane Traders Hotel, Brisbane 159 Roma St Brisbane QLD 4000 Please visit AviationWorx to register

How are operators expected to get to Roma Street, Brisbane by 07:30 for a "breakfast meeting":ugh:

Spend the night at a Hotel in the city centre and blow a week's profit:mad:

holdingagain
15th Jun 2016, 06:23
Well a couple of years on and Casa are again having workshops
Brisbane today I think and Gold Coast tomorrow, both booked out well in advance so couldn't attend

Can anyone report on went on

thunderbird five
15th Jun 2016, 07:26
Ah, WORKSHOPS..... the icebergs of the sky.....
By jack-knifing from one to the next at breakneck speed, we might just get some kind of gravity boost... or something...


Went to one last year. Going to one again soon. Expecting another WOFTAM for all the industry reps, like the last one, but at least lunch is free.

Pilotette
8th Aug 2017, 13:10
Was anything gained from attending the recent workshops? How many operators have actually transitioned?

GarretHealy
19th Oct 2017, 16:22
I have worked up a generic tutorial for CAO 48.1.

Presentations, flow charts, Quick Reference Guides.

I would like to get feedback.

Here is the link:

www.understandingcao481.wordpress.com

zanthrus
20th Oct 2017, 10:31
Too hard. Ignore it all and just go flying.