wheels up

[miroho]

anyone hear of a wheels up at coonawarra recently?

[Compylot]

Good Evening Miroho,

While I haven't heard anything about the particular incident you are alluding to, it reminds me of the old adage;

"There are two types of pilots in this world, those who have had a wheels up landing and those that are yet to" :ok:

[Checkboard]

"There are two types of pilots in this world, those who have had a wheels up landing and those that are yet to" :ok:

A statement usually used by those that have. ;)

[Capetonian]

Lucky escape after crash landing at Coonawarra | Aviation Inspector (http://www.aviationinspector.com/?p=14962)

There was a YouTube but I ddin't find it with a quick search.

[Shagpile]

I tell my students "you only need to do one wheels up landing and you are a **** pilot".

There's a similar adage about fornicating goats.

[Ixixly]

Geez Shagpile, tell'em what you really think!! Theres another saying that goes something along the of "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks"... :E

[Wallsofchina]

How could it have been a wheels up landing when the wheels were down (see photo).

[TBM-Legend]

One gear collapses and someone thinks it's a "wheels-up landing"....

Nothing that the insurance company can't cover....

[j3pipercub]

Hey Shagpile,

Also heard the adage about instructors?

"5000 hours of instructing aint 5000hrs, it's 1hr 5000 times".

j3

[Horatio Leafblower]

One gear collapses and someone thinks it's a "wheels-up landing"....


...especially if someone from the Aero Club didn't see it but heard about it from someone else! :ugh:

[Shagpile]

"5000 hours of instructing aint 5000hrs, it's 1hr 5000 times".

You bet! Although can be very rewarding still.

No the intent is to let students know that they only need to forget the landing gear once in their career and it's wheels up. In other words, their attitude towards checks needs to be 100%, not 99%.

I understand the multitude of contributing factors that goes into landing gear up including missing warnings, ATC R/T, checks, CRM, company pressures, fatigue, etc. Obviously nobody wants to land wheels up and it's not as simple as "You're **** if you do" (we all make mistakes).

The student needs to be made aware of their link in the sequence of events leading to a gear up and be as disciplined as possible to maximise their chances of saving themselves when all the other holes in the cheese line up one day.

[Hugh Jarse]

The three biggest crocks of malarkey in the aviation industry:

1. "There's those that have, and those that will";

2. "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach";

3. "5000hrs of instructing is 1 hr, 5000 times".

So, based on the above assumptions:

1. All pilots are going to guts a plane at some stage :} :ugh:

2. All trainers are crap pilots; and

3. Instructors only teach one sequence?

Give us a break! :ugh:

[j3pipercub]

For the record Hugh, I was bringing out the cliche to demonstrate a point.

Sense of humour bypass day?:ugh:

j3

[Hugh Jarse]

Yeah, I have sim coming up soon :} Talk about irony: Kind of like steely, or bronzey - only made of iron.

Apologies to Baldrick :E