View Full Version : Has once great, Britain lost the plot completely?


Airborne Aircrew
6th Mar 2013, 11:43
Link (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/leicester--guerrilla-knitting---the-science-behind-police-attempts-to--reclaim-communities--125053752.html#BRVrGvu)

In the modern era of crime-ridden corner and 'ASBO' gangs loitering on streets, police are thinking up ever more inventive ways to deter criminals and reassure residents.

The latest attempt, by Leicestershire Police, saw the East Midlands force attach hundreds of knitted 'pom-poms' to trees and lamppost to help reduce fear of crime in an area of the city.

The 'guerrilla knitting' saw dozens of inoffensive woolly baubles strapped to tree branches in Bede Park and Great Central Way, Leicester.

Police wanted to encourage people to use the two areas of Leicester - but opinion appears split as to whether it will make any difference.

Criminologists say making the area look cosier will make it feel safer, but residents in Leicester appear unconvinced.http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/viu51.LKKlWVQeLg7aFzgQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MTk0NDtjcj0xO2N3PTI1OTI7ZHg9MDtkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTQ3MjtxPTg1O3c9NjMw/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2013-03-05/15f6221e-7874-43e4-9301-53a4d813bdae_pink-lights-mansfield2-05032013.jpg


I'm utterly speechless... :sad:



Capetonian
6th Mar 2013, 11:45
This is, quite literally, 'fluffyism' at its worst.

stuckgear
6th Mar 2013, 11:51
police are thinking up ever more inventive ways to deter criminals and reassure residents.




perhaps the police would be better served if they applied pressure on the legal system to enforce punishment for law breaking and criminal behaviour and the CPS for not disregarding criminal prosecutions.

the funny thing is criminal activity is illegal, it's just the laws need to enforced. and we're not talking about massaging 'crime' figures by prosecuting motorists that go 2mph too fast, or dawn raids by SWAT teams on householders that leave the bin out on the wrong day but actual crime.

rgbrock1
6th Mar 2013, 11:55
Hey airborne? Perhaps the UK should think of installing these kind of pom poms.

http://www.sport24.com/var/plain_site/storage/images/evenements/diaporamas/beach-soccer-les-pom-pom-girls__1/pom-pom-girls-a-rio-de-janeiro__1/1627725-1-fre-FR/pom-pom-girls-a-rio-de-janeiro_full_diapos_large.jpg

toffeez
6th Mar 2013, 12:02
Hereabouts the fire brigade are pretty good at getting pussy down from the tree.

sitigeltfel
6th Mar 2013, 12:05
If you want to deter crime, these are the only Pom-Poms that have any effect :ok:

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Fox3WheresMyBanana
6th Mar 2013, 12:13
And how would these criminologists feel if they actually lived in the area and saw the Police putting up knitting as a response to their spouse being mugged?

You know the answer!

sitigeltfel
6th Mar 2013, 12:16
"A Liberal is a Conservative who has yet to be mugged!"

toffeez
6th Mar 2013, 13:44
The one that would really scare off the scum, is a granny patrol.

Get the ones who made the pom-poms out on the streets with oversize handbags to swing. Some of them went through the war and they weren't afraid of Hitler. They're not going to be impressed by some spotty yoof.

Pelikal
6th Mar 2013, 13:58
Hey, you lot have hijacked my Pom-Pom thread, just you wait......

stuckgear
6th Mar 2013, 14:02
Perhaps the UK should think of installing these kind of pom poms.

http://www.sport24.com/var/plain_site/storage/images/evenements/diaporamas/beach-soccer-les-pom-pom-girls__1/pom-pom-girls-a-rio-de-janeiro__1/1627725-1-fre-FR/pom-pom-girls-a-rio-de-janeiro_full_diapos_large.jpg

RGB.

nooo.. not understanding what you are saying..

...please post more pics to illustrate your point.

:E

rgbrock1
6th Mar 2013, 14:06
Okay, stuckgear, I guess you're being a bit thick this morning (Afternoon over yonder.) I'll oblige by spelling it out with more piccies. :}:}:}

http://londres-2012.sport24.com/var/plain_site/storage/images/evenements/diaporamas/les-beach-babes/pom-pom-girls__1/3949378-2-fre-FR/pom-pom-girls_full_diapos_large.jpg

stuckgear
6th Mar 2013, 14:07
nope.. still nothing... need more....

:E

rgbrock1
6th Mar 2013, 14:08
REALLY thick, eh?!!!!

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/12-Rebecca-Shedden-Tampa-Bay-Buccaneers-Cheerleaders-Hottest-NFL-Cheerleaders-of-2012.jpg

stuckgear
6th Mar 2013, 14:12
Jesus! A dead heat in a zeppelin race! where's slasher..

one thing i am really angry at the gods for is not growing up in the US with cheerleader culture.

damn you gods !!!

rgbrock1
6th Mar 2013, 14:12
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16400000/Dallas-Cowboys-Cheerleaders-nfl-cheerleaders-16417629-666-800.jpg

vulcanised
6th Mar 2013, 14:17
not growing up in the US with cheerleader culture.



Even worse growing up in the UK, where they take little boys out on to the field.

What's that all about?

probes
6th Mar 2013, 14:21
hmmmm... Pom-Poms... (http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/509257-pom-poms.html) Pelikal, why did you ask actually?? :suspect:

Pelikal
6th Mar 2013, 14:33
Well, probes, because I knew we would get images of cheerleaders here, you know, brighten things up a bit....

Tankertrashnav
6th Mar 2013, 14:37
Even worse growing up in the UK, where they take little boys out on to the field.

What's that all about?



Worse than that, I only recently discovered that they (the little boys, or their parents that is) have to pay for the privilege!

FFS!

2 sheds
6th Mar 2013, 14:43
According to the BBC:

But criminologist Charlotte Bilby said they could have a positive effect.
Ms Bilby, a senior lecturer in criminology at Northumbria University, said: "I think that making an area look cosier certainly makes an area feel safer.

silly tart

Charlotte Bilby - Northumbria University, Newcastle UK (http://www.northumbria.ac.uk/sd/academic/sass/about/socscience/deptstaff/bilby/)

2 s

Lord Spandex Masher
6th Mar 2013, 14:47
Oh I dunno 2Sheds it might feel safer right up to the point you get mugged.

Milo Minderbinder
6th Mar 2013, 15:51
heres one to watch out for

http://www.parentzilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/male-cheerleader.jpeg

skydiver69
6th Mar 2013, 16:15
I am a PC who works in Leicestershire. I am embarrassed by this and had to check the date when I first read about it. Words fail me.

ZH875
6th Mar 2013, 17:13
Remind me who the Leicestershire police and crime commissioner is..


RAF down the drain and now the Leicester police soon to follow.

screwballburling
6th Mar 2013, 17:24
vulcanised

"Even worse growing up in the UK, where they take little boys out on to the field.

What's that all about? "

Sodomised

500N
6th Mar 2013, 17:52
"I'm utterly speechless.."

That makes two of us.


Who comes up with these crazy ideas ?

Limeygal
6th Mar 2013, 17:53
http://www.parentzilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/male-cheerleader.jpeg

Milo-blame the Ffrench-it is Louisiana after all!

wings folded
6th Mar 2013, 18:00
Any alleged sport spectacle which requires scantily clad bints (or even little boys) to add to the attraction of the occasion must be pretty dull and boring.

stuckgear
6th Mar 2013, 18:06
kinda missing the point WF.. the girls are the main event.. the sport is just interval..

FIfbghHdG1s

wings folded
6th Mar 2013, 18:19
Rugby seems to cope without little boys nor gormless bints to add to (or replace) the attraction.

SpringHeeledJack
6th Mar 2013, 18:49
It seems that the idea is to 'soften' the visual environment, which hypothetically would lead to the residents feeling different and therefore less alienated/de-humanised. As to whether it would lead to less anti-social behaviour, who knows, I'd be somewhat pessimistic. However in sink estates where the councils have renovated/re-modelled the facades and walk ways there have been generalised improvements in the quality of life for the residents. Maybe the knitting will have the same affect as cheesy/classical music has had outside of convenience stores where the yoof are pushed away as it's not cool to be around ?



SHJ

500N
6th Mar 2013, 18:54
"It seems that the idea is to 'soften' the visual environment,"

You can achieve the same without putting "fluffy balls" in the trees.

1. Bright coloured Flowers
2. Bright coloured seats / benches, even if they are made of concrete


I was thinking of the music example as well.

cavortingcheetah
6th Mar 2013, 19:07
It's not fluffy balls you should be dressing the trees with in Britain but felons.

screwballburling
6th Mar 2013, 20:57
WF

I wouldn't care how boring the game was. I would go to see those girls!!! Goodness, they are beautiful!

gingernut
6th Mar 2013, 21:17
Perhaps if we spent more time looking at Pom Pom's, we'd relax a bit more.

All joking apart, crime see's to be related to in exertion....whether that means going surfing, spending a gentleman's five minutes in front of pom pom photo's or 2 weeks in front of a cement mixer, I'm sure we could do more to chill :)

gingernut
6th Mar 2013, 21:23
I'm not sure that coppers climbing a tree is the right idea though.....shouldn't they be out there flying the flag, taking sexual abuse victims seriously, spending more time predicting Jimmy Saville type people and generally acting like Dirty Harry ?

500N
6th Mar 2013, 21:29
We try !

The slam dunk is at about 0.55. Has caused a bit of controversy
over here but quite a lot support the sook. All tough then wimpers
when the tables are turned.


SYDNEY MARDI GRAS 2013 Police arrest a drunk - YouTube

Cacophonix
6th Mar 2013, 21:31
Not one mother ******* bit of it. This country (in essence), as she sits, is as good as you can get...


Caco

The Brew - Every Gig Has A Neighbour (live at WDR Rockpalast) - YouTube

Cacophonix
6th Mar 2013, 21:35
For those blokes from Aus...

Hells Angels - 81 Nomads DVD - Australia. - YouTube


Caco

Lonewolf_50
6th Mar 2013, 21:42
Community Policing is an endeavour to very much "engage with people" so that the cops are not dealing with folks who have a bunker mentality in re the officers. It works some, and it doesn't work some.

It is a tool in the kit bag. Without it, however, my in law who is a cop advises me that policing in a lot of neighborhoods is a hell of a lot harder.

Over time, he's become a believer it in, even though he freely admits that in some situations it doesn't work. But then, nothing works all the time.

But I draw the line between community policing and huggy fluff stuff from academic egg heads. My condolences to our cousins on the eastern side of the pond, that you are afflicted by such mummery at the tax payers' expense. We have our share of that nonsense as well.

Noah Zark.
6th Mar 2013, 21:48
I am not gay. This is a simple statement of fact, in no way meaning to be derogatory to anyone who is.
But, upon close scrutiny of the items illustrated in posts #4, again in #11,#12, and #14, I think I married a bloke! :uhoh: :sad:

gingernut
6th Mar 2013, 21:49
500N it's hard to differentiate there between the scenes, the slam sounded terrible. What's the actual story here ?

500N
6th Mar 2013, 21:53
He was arrested at the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Graz for something
- I'll come back to you on that.

Obviously got a bit mouthy for the cops, one of whom eventually
slammed him into the ground.

The only problem was someone was filming it.

A real who-hah over the whole thing, calling it police brutality.

See article on front page of Sydney Morning Herald - Business & World News Australia | smh.com.au (http://www.smh.com.au)

Don't believe everything you read in the article !!!

'I could have been killed': Mardi Gras teen claims innocent tickle was behind arrest (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/i-could-have-been-killed-mardi-gras-teen-claims-innocent-tickle-was-behind-arrest-20130307-2fmhe.html)

fitliker
6th Mar 2013, 21:57
Shoot ,Shovel and Shut UP :}:}

screwballburling
6th Mar 2013, 22:06
Noah

Trust you to spoil it!

Well I wouldn't mind the job of finding out if they are men or women.

BTW, did you like no's 23 and 28?? Your answer could tell me a lot.

racedo
6th Mar 2013, 22:18
silly tart

Charlotte Bilby - Northumbria University, Newcastle UK (http://www.northumbria.ac.uk/sd/academic/sass/about/socscience/deptstaff/bilby/)

2 s

Unmarried, wears sensible shoes and has at least 1 cat.

gingernut
6th Mar 2013, 22:23
Obviously got a bit mouthy for the cops, one of whom eventually
slammed him into the ground.

As I've said before, t'is hard to judge the actions by that clip.

To be fair to the cop's, they seem to have a lot to put up, but I can't help noticing from the "Cop's on Camera" shows I see over here, there is some scope for improving communication training.

I'd be willing to facilitate some workshops for you guys:)

500N
6th Mar 2013, 22:28
gingernut

If you are in the US, then I would agree,
sometimes the cops re not clear on what
they want to happen or explaining things.

On the other hand, saw one the other day
who was excellent.

gingernut
6th Mar 2013, 22:39
It's a delicate balance between knobhead & authority.

gingernut
6th Mar 2013, 22:40
both of 'em get it wrong:)

Pelikal
6th Mar 2013, 22:51
Ha!! Earthlings. We come from the planet Pompomiscuous. We WILL not have our fellow creatures be treated in this way. They have rights too.

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g412/RobJHP/Pom-Pom/SUPERPom-Pomswarmflat_zps17232036.jpg

You have been warned.

Tankertrashnav
6th Mar 2013, 23:04
Rugby seems to cope without little boys nor gormless bints to add to (or replace) the attraction.

Surely you haven't forgotten Erika Roe, Foldie ?

http://www.interestingfacts.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Erika-Roe-Topless-300x288.jpg

Pelikal
9th Mar 2013, 13:56
Well, I thought my image of a bunch of angry Pom-Poms ready for battle was quite cute. Clearly nobody else thought so....:{:{:{

wings folded
9th Mar 2013, 14:09
Surely you haven't forgotten Erika Roe, Foldie ?


Obviously not, but then again they (sorry, she) was / were not part of the planned spectacle.

Windy Militant
9th Mar 2013, 16:22
http://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/thumb.php?src=/assets/Hull_Kr_5-4f427047b0f2a.jpg&w=690&h=450
Rugby seems to cope without little boys nor gormless bints to add to (or replace) the attraction.

Do they!:p (Wakefield Wildcats Dolls);)

Davaar
9th Mar 2013, 16:46
enrichment activities in criminal justice systems which will be staring in November 2012.

Gripping link, racedo.

On a reading of her "interests" one concludes that word-meanings, spelling, and simple editing are not high among them.

What does the girl do? Hard to tell, but she seems to make a good dollar in doing it.

P,S. Just noted that the charmer is in Newcastle. Very handy for philosophical chats with The Unknown (at least unnnamed here) PPRuNer.

wings folded
9th Mar 2013, 18:07
Do they!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/tongue.gif (Wakefield Wildcats Dolls)http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wink2.gif


They are odd in Yorkshire.

Noah Zark.
9th Mar 2013, 21:05
Wings,

Thiz nowt odd abaht them lasses!

hellsbrink
10th Mar 2013, 07:31
Do they! (Wakefield Wildcats Dolls)

Yer, but that's League and they do like to think they are a poor man's version of Murrican Football and should have the same "show" to keep the crowds interested.






<Tin hat on, ready for incoming>

stuckgear
10th Mar 2013, 07:43
Never figured you for a Union man HB..

:}

hellsbrink
10th Mar 2013, 07:51
Strawbs - Part of the union 1973 - YouTube

RedhillPhil
10th Mar 2013, 18:30
The Police lost their way when they started to refer to themselves as a service rather than a force.

toffeez
10th Mar 2013, 21:22
Thick thighs, all of them.
.

Rail Engineer
11th Mar 2013, 00:04
Interesting picture in post #1.

Enough contraventions of the various H&S Regulations to make the local HSE bods get the vapors !