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China Flyer
5th Mar 2013, 20:43
From Fox News TSA allows knives on planes, flight attendants union calls decision 'dangerous' | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/05/tsa-allows-knives-on-board/)(I know, I know...)

Will Australia follow, I wonder?

The Transportation Security Administration announced Tuesday that U.S. airline passengers will soon be allowed to carry small knives in their carry-on bags, a move that prompted swift condemnation from a flight attendants union.
The union for Southwest Airlines flight attendants called the decision "dangerous" and "designed to make the lives of TSA staff easier, but not make flights safer."
The changes were made public by TSA Administrator John Pistole during an aviation conference in New York.
Starting April 25, passengers going through U.S. airports can bring on board Swiss Army-type knives -- specifically, ones with blades no longer than 2.36 inches.
This marks the first time such knives have been allowed on board since security was heavily increased in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
Pistole told the audience that TSA screeners at the Los Angeles International Airport alone seized roughly 47 such knives a day over the last three months of 2012, according to Air Transportation World. (http://atwonline.com/international-aviation-regulation/news/tsa-permit-small-knives-carry-bags-0305)http://global.fncstatic.com/static/v/all/img/external-link.png
"Frankly, I don't want TSA agents to be delayed by these," he said.
The agency said the changes were made as part of its "overall risk-based security approach" and to align with the international standards and those of European countries.

Under the TSA decision, however, box-cutter type knives used by the 9/11 hijackers are still prohibited. Razors as well as knives with molded grips also are still banned.

doubleu-anker
5th Mar 2013, 21:51
Good gratious me. They will be wanting axes in the cockpit next!!

Oakape
5th Mar 2013, 22:12
But a bottle of water is still highly dangerous! :ugh:

Wally Mk2
5th Mar 2013, 22:22
I've said it b4 the terrorists have done their job well, they have instilled fear into the rule makers & traveling public (especially aviation) on a huge scale that will last for many years to come & they need never step aboard another plane again to make a statement, it's free terror in perpetual motion !:ugh:
I blame the fools who dream up these rules & regs, they are the current terrorists!


Wmk2

VH-XXX
5th Mar 2013, 22:37
But a bottle of water is still highly dangerous! :ugh:

The problem is when the water isn't water.

They discovered years ago after that movie with the liquid b-ombs (can't think what it's called - had a yellow and red liquid) that more than 100mls of one liquid mixed with more than 100mls of another, could cause a catastrophic explosion - hence the liquid limit. I'm happy they have the limit but not happy when I purchase a water in the terminal only to find an additional screening point at the departure gate :ugh:

500N
5th Mar 2013, 22:49
VH

Wasn't that one of the Die Hard movies ?



I would hope that someone realised before that movie
came out that liquids were capable !!!

Oakape
5th Mar 2013, 23:42
The problem is when the water isn't water.

Most of those on this forum would understand that. That was not the point I was making.

BreakNeckSpeed
5th Mar 2013, 23:46
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Water+facts.+scary+tags_d99f98_4045854.jpg
You can never be too careful!

Oakape
6th Mar 2013, 00:55
This, from another article on the subject -

In 2005, the TSA changed its policies to allow passengers to carry on airplanes small scissors, knitting needles, tweezers, nail clippers and up to four books of matches

I didn't know that! If this is the case, why do our lot still not allow these items? I thought Oz always followed the lead of the US. :hmm:

Ixixly
6th Mar 2013, 01:13
"small scissors, knitting needles, tweezers, nail clippers and up to four books of matches" Sounds like stuff you'd find in Mcguyvers pockets.... And he'd definitely be able to find a way to Hijack an aircraft with them!! Or Build an aircraft with them...

Piltdown Man
6th Mar 2013, 18:43
For those of us in the new third world, these are the new rules (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2010:055:0001:0055:EN:PDF). But the reality is, no airport gestapo will let you pass with such a blade. Each and every numptie squeals that they are following EU legislation but all are totally ignorant of the same.

PM