Jobs with PPL in Rotterdam

[nurhakim]

Hi everyone,

I am working to earn my PPL, later on earning before CPL and ATPL.

Would like to know what kind of jobs can i do with my PPL in Rotterdam (or around there).

I would like to earn my flying hours and also save up money for CPL and ATPL.

Any suggestions other than being a PPL flight instructor?

Thanks in advance guys. :D

[GAZ45]

I am sorry to say I don’t have any advice for you.

But I'd like to hear others views on having a PPL license and becoming a PPL instructor... has anyone ever been able to secure work from this?

I just cannot imagine FTO's being comfortable with an instructor who can’t fly IFR in an emergency weather situation if required - and having an instructor who has only marginally more hours than the student they are instructing?!

[gordonquinn]

You can't earn money with a PPL.

"no person who holds a private pilot certificate may act as pilot in command of an aircraft that is carrying passengers or property for compensation or hire; nor may that person, for compensation or hire, act as pilot in command of an aircraft"

The only exclusion on this is to be a Flight Instructor, but you still cannot be paid for this.

There are certain requirements for entering the course too, see below:



Hold a valid pilots licence, which includes a valid Single Engine Piston (Land) rating
Meet the knowledge requirements for the grant of a JAR CPL (A)
Have at least a CPL (A) or have completed at least 200 hours of flight time of which 150 hours as Pilot-in-Command if holding a PPL (A)
Have completed at least 30 hours on Single Engine Piston powered aeroplanes of which at least 5 hours shall be in the 6 months preceding the pre-entry flight test).
Have completed at least 10 hours instrument flight instruction of which up to 5 may be in a simulator.
Have completed 20 hours cross-country flight time as PIC of aeroplanes including a cross country flight of 540km (300nm) with full-stop landings at two other aerodromes.
Passed a specific pre-entry flight test within the 6 months preceding the start of the course.

So you will need to build up some hours too beforehand.



Most schools apparently are happy to recruit graduates from their FI courses, how true that is I don't know but considering they would be working for free, I wouldn't be surprised by it.


Have a good think, if you are keen on getting your CPL and IR, maybe doing your CPL first is a good idea, before your FI rating, it contributes some hours and lets you earn $$$, not much though remember.

[Contact Approach]

Gordon,

You are incorrect my friend:

Specific requirements for the PPL aeroplanes - PPL(A)

FCL.205.A PPL(A) - Privileges

(a) The privileges of the holder of a PPL(A) are to act without remuneration as PIC or copilot on aeroplanes or TMGs engaged in non-commercial operations.

(b) Notwithstanding the paragraph above, the holder of a PPL(A) with instructor or examiner privileges may receive remuneration for:

(1) the provision of flight instruction for the LAPL(A) or PPL(A);
(2) the conduct of skill tests and proficiency checks for these licences;
(3) the ratings and certificates attached to these licences.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/tran/dv/tran20110525_pilotlicences_/tran20110525_pilotlicences_en.pdf

[gordonquinn]

Interesting! Thank you for correcting me then Contact Approach.

Apologies for any confusion caused nurhakim.

[Contact Approach]

No probs.

Note 2: Under Part-FCL the holder of a PPL with FI rating may be paid to give instruction for the PPL and LAPL. The 2012 amendment of Schedule 7 of the Air Navigation Order allows the holder of a UK PPL(A) with FI to be similarly remunerated for providing instruction.

FAQ Answer | EASA Transition | Personal Licences and Training (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=2330&pagetype=70&gid=2134&faqid=1303)

[RTN11]

I am working to earn my PPL, later on earning before CPL and ATPL.

Would like to know what kind of jobs can i do with my PPL in Rotterdam (or around there).

I would like to earn my flying hours and also save up money for CPL and ATPL.

Any suggestions other than being a PPL flight instructor?


You will be unable to use instructing to "earn your hours" to get a CPL, as to be an instructor on a PPL you need 50 more hours than if you just had a CPL.

So it would cost you just as much in hour building to get an instructor rating on a PPL as it would on a CPL, so you may as well just get the CPL then the FI, then worry about the IR later on.