below deck galleys with lifts

[peachair732]

I miss those L1011s with the galley lifts. I find it amazing that new aircraft types are not using this concept to increase seating/capacity. I know LH use simlar low deck galleys on 340-600s but am amzed other airlines do not ask Airbus and Boeing for this type of option.

[Rob Courtney]

Thomas Cook 330s have the toilets on the deck below if memory serves me right

[Tagron]

Bear in mind that BA modified all their longhaul L1011-200s and some -50s by relocating the under floor galley to the main deck in order to free up more space for cargo in the lower compartments. In that respect BA's commercial requirements would be different from that of many other operators.

[peachair732]

Surprised airlines like Air Transat with less cargo demand dont put the galleys downstairs to free up more space for pax on main deck. Im surprised Airbus dont offer a refit on the 310 and 330. Bung in a few lifts and they could upload more pax and we would have the 70s 'feeling'

[WHBM]

Did the lifts not give issues with the crew member potentially being stuck down there if the lift failed, and they were not certificated for landing with anyone down there.

[peachair732]

I think Caledonian may have been the last UK airline using the below deck galleys on their 393 config L1011 complete with 2 lifts one for crew, one for trolley

[DaveReidUK]

Did the lifts not give issues with the crew member potentially being stuck down there if the lift failed, and they were not certificated for landing with anyone down there.IIRC, there were a couple of ways to get out the galley if the lift failed.

You could climb through a hatch in the top of the lift and haul yourself up to the main cabin, or exit the galley directly through a hatch in the ceiling/cabin floor.

[vctenderness]

Oh the memories! I can't even begin to tell you of some of the things that went on in the UFG. Often referred to as 'the party room'.

Some male crew made 'net curtains, from doylies for the little window there. We never figured out why there was a window.


I once saw about a dozen devout orthodox jewish passengers complete,with regalia pray down there.


A lot of less religious things involving crew, and sometimes passengers also happened!


It was the best job on the ship although it could be high pressure at times.


It had proper freezers and lots of nice things to eat purchased overseas were transported in them. Steaks, gulf prawns, whole Alaskan salmon etc.


Happy days indeed.

[206cc_jim]

Just because air transat doesn't fill the usual profile as scheduled carrier or
Cargo operator, do not assume cargo isn't a major source of income or dismiss the amount of cargo they carry. I was surprised the amount of cargo a uk charter airline carries, more than BA on an equivalent aircraft basis.

[PAXboy]

vctenderness Sounds like you were lucky that there were no camera phones in those days ... :ooh:

[WHBM]

A lot of less religious things involving crew, and sometimes passengers also happened.
What is less religious about Go Forth and Multiply ? (Genesis 9:1) :)

[Phileas Fogg]

I experienced being accosted over a bar cart or few in the lower galleys of DC10's by one or a few pretty flight attendants ... oh, how life as a staff passenger was such a bitch :)

[PAXboy]

Corks popping everywhere?

Perhaps we now understand why the under floor galleys have not been continued. Although, I think, there are some under and some over rest areas. :mad:

[vctenderness]

vctenderness Sounds like you were lucky that there were no camera phones in those days ... http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/icon25.gif

I'm not sure about that! Some of the things I witnessed would be quite nice to look back on.....


In particular the one Stewardess who stripped down to stocking and suspenders when working UFG....it was very hot down there.


Off for a cold shower now.

[peachair732]

Thanks for sharing memories of the below deck galley. I believe it was initially a Lockheed invention, seemed to make such perfect sense, and a brilliant idea to me. I belive similar under floor galleys were put on DC10s and 747s. Does anyone know if the LH 346 has lifts to the galley, or just steps. Im intrigued by those tiny lifts that transported a flight attendant, must have been cramped and a bit scary maybe?

[Phileas Fogg]

Naah,

I recall the DC10 lift becoming stuck and a male flight attendant holding the senior stewardess by her ankles whilst she was head first down the lift shaft fixing the problem whilst her uniform dress was somewhere around her shoulders :)

It's just not fun anymore, all these LoCo's and modern aircraft, can we have the "good ol' days" back please? :)

[matkat]

When I worked for AAI our B747-200s had cart lifts to service the upper deck, very handy on one occasion over xmas when they both somehow 'failed' and the catering people could not remove the trolleys, we had a helluva party that year hic:D

[vctenderness]

This thread has awakened my old brain cells and I now remember that the Tristar also had elevating wardrobes.

You hung the coats and jackets and pressed the switch and they disappeared up in the ceiling. Definite good use of space!


It was definitely ahead of its time with these features.