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validator
31st Jan 2013, 14:34
Hello,

I wonder if you guys know the operating temperature limitations of the following helicopters (or at least know some website that i can find such information)

Bell UH-1H
Bell AB204
Bell AB205
Bell AB206
Bell AB212
Bell AH-1P
Bell OH-38

Sikorsky S-70
Eurocopter AS532
Boing CH-47F
AgustaWestland T129 (Atak) (if possible)

I have been searching for this information but can not find such a thing. I will really appriciate it and send imaginary cheesecakes and coffees for those who help =) (its late, im still at work and i really want some atm)

AAKEE
31st Jan 2013, 14:46
AS332M1 has temp limit ISA+35celsius (equals +50c at Sea Level).
Think this goes for the as532 as well, not 100% sure though.

[Edit] Ahhh, saw the following posts. Didn't think about low ambient temperatures, its the everyday enviroment for me @ the artic circle.
Min temp about -45C. I think we have som kind of cold weather kit on the AS332.

Gordy
31st Jan 2013, 15:12
These are all I fly, hence all I have access to.

Bell UH-1H:

Temperature Limitation (Hub Spring Aircraft Only). Remove elastomeric springs prior to operating aircraft when OAT is below -20° C (-5°F) or If this temperature is anticipated to occur during flight. If, however, sub -20°C temperatures are encountered during flight change altitude in an attempt to find warmer air Elastomeric springs shall be reinstalled when the OAT is expected to stay above -20°C or the threat of sub 20°'C temperatures no longer exists.

Bell 205:

AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURE LIMITATIONS
The maximum sea level ambient air temperature for approved operations is +530C, (+127°F) and decreases with altitude at the standard (2.01C/1000 feet) lapse rate. (See Ambient Air Temperature Limit Chart.)
The minimum ambient temperature for approved operations is -54°C (-65°F) for any altitude.
Engine de-icing shall be turned ON for flight in visible moisture at temperatures below +4.4°C (+40°F).
The maximum ambient temperature for use of engine de-icing is +4.4°C (+40°F).

Bell 206L4:

Maximum sea level ambient air temperature for operation is 51.7°C (125°F) and decreases with HP at standard lapse rate of 2°C (3.6°F) per 1000 feet.
Minimum ambient air temperature for operation at all altitudes is -50°C (-54°F).
Maximum ambient temperature for use of engine anti-ice is 5°C (40°F).
ENGINE ANTI-ICING and PITOT HEAT shall be ON in visible moisture when OAT is below +5°C (40°F).
Fuel control heater valve (if installed) shall be ON in ambient temperatures below 10°C (50°F). When operating in ambient temperatures above 21°C (70°F), fuel control heater valve shall be OFF.

Bell 212:

Maximum sea level ambient air temperature for operation is +52°C (+125°F) and decreases with altitude at standard lapse rate (2°C per 1000 feet HP ) . Minimum ambient air temperature at all altitudes is -54°C (-65°F). Refer to Weight-Altitude-Temperature Limitat ions for Takeoff , Landing, and In-Ground Effect Maneuvers Chart (Figure 1-1).

Geoffersincornwall
31st Jan 2013, 17:10
You may be lucky and find the Bell information in a book on Ancient History

G

:)

PS. At a guess I would say that older types were certified to -40 deg C to +40 deg C and the later ones probably -40 deg C to +50 dec. All these temps refer to Sea Level. If you need to know more about higher altitudes then you will need a copy of the RFM.

jazzyj78
31st Jan 2013, 19:04
For most EC AC you will have -40°C and +55°C...

Gordy
31st Jan 2013, 20:44
then you will need a copy of the RFM.

Just to clarify---my numbers above are from the current approved flight manuals. :):)

212man
31st Jan 2013, 21:56
Search for their Type Certificate Data Sheets (TCDS) on the EASA and/or FAA websites. Here's the 332 for example : http://www.easa.europa.eu/certification/type-certificates/docs/rotorcraft/EASA-TCDS-R.002_Eurocopter_SA330--AS332--EC225LP-09-14062012.pdf