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EZY433
24th Jan 2013, 12:47
Hi all, apologies if this is a guff question to you guys, however could you point me in the right direction to find out the P/R and Heave limitation for the aircraft when working offshore? Thanks in anticipation. SJ

gulliBell
24th Jan 2013, 22:10
It's whatever is written down in the Operators Operations Manual or Exposition or SOP or whatever the local document is that contains that information. For the B412 it's likely to be in the order of 2m heave and 10deg P/R.

212man
25th Jan 2013, 02:58
and 10deg P/R.

:eek::eek::eek: That'll be an exciting ride!

gulliBell
25th Jan 2013, 05:17
....which is why I'd always take an S76 over a B412 for those jobs if given the choice :ok:

EZY433
27th Jan 2013, 06:44
Ta for the info; you would like to think that this info is in the manuals you talk about GulliBell, however they are not for the operator I am currently working with. 10dgs P/R is warship flying :) Regards SJ

gulliBell
27th Jan 2013, 08:56
Ta for the info; you would like to think that this info is in the manuals you talk about ...10dgs P/R is warship flying

I don't even recall slope landing limits being mentioned in the B212 or B412 RFM. The landing limits info for ship ops should always be written in your local ops procedure, if you need to do that sort of thing....and as for the warship flying, I'd prefer to land on a warship any day over some of those smaller seismic survey boats in iffy sea state :eek:

p.s. I've seen 14degP/R in an S76 which I discovered is the point where it will slide backwards off the deck...if I saw that number in a B412 I think I'd be reaching for the HEEDS bottle :}

Twinpac
27th Jan 2013, 09:24
I cannot remember the Bell 412 but the Bell 212 was 4 degrees pitch and roll and 5m heave (Bristow Ops manual Part A) and you needed a net on the deck or you would slide off.
Hope this answers your question.
Twinpac