First F-4M Photos [Archive]

galaxy flyer

7th Jan 2013, 20:16

A friend sent exterior and cockpit B&W photos, probably by McAir, of YF-4M no. 1. RAF designation is XT 852 and the date is 17 Jul 67.

Anyone interested, I can send them on, no charge

GF

Courtney Mil

7th Jan 2013, 20:29

Please. Yes, please.

CoffmanStarter

7th Jan 2013, 20:45

Any chance you could scan and share GF ? ... even some if many :ok:

No ... :{

http://www.16airassaultbrigade.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/xt852.jpg

Rhino power

7th Jan 2013, 20:47

galaxy flyer, PM sent

-RP

galaxy flyer

8th Jan 2013, 00:22

Yes, I'll try scanning and figure out sizing and posting.

Rhino Power & 54phan. I got your PMs, you guys sort who gets them.

GF

CoffmanStarter

8th Jan 2013, 09:39

Cheers GF :ok:

phantomstreaker

8th Jan 2013, 15:06

Would you please send me a copy if you would give permission to share on the British F-4 Appreciation Group on Facebook?

Thanks

54Phan

8th Jan 2013, 16:45

Thanks for sharing.:ok:

galaxy flyer

8th Jan 2013, 20:16

Let me figure out "hosting" some of the scans. If there is an organization that would appreciate them, that would be perfect.

GF

LOMCEVAK

12th Jan 2013, 13:51

GF,

I would certainly like copies if possible. I flew a few hours in 852 in the late '80s at Boscombe. Our F4K, XT897 (a pre-series aircraft), was down for a long time after a bad birdstrike so we used to borrow 852 from BAE every couple of months for some currency flying. When I first flew it it had only flown about 750 hours total and was like new. It was also slightly different from a standard FGR2/F4M in that it had the drooped ailerons and slatted tailplane like an F4K. It was a really nice jet and sad to see that it ended up on the fire dump at West Freugh.

dat581

12th Jan 2013, 14:15

Does anyone else find it utterly shambolic that XT852 could not be saved just because some bureaucrat said no? I've found quite a few atempts to save the aircraft by various parties and all ignored by some pencil pusher.

Milo Minderbinder

12th Jan 2013, 19:15

dat581
The original contract of sale to the UK mandated that none of the Phantoms could be resold once their service life had ended. They all had to be scrapped. Those still in existance are still - nominally - under UK military control. |The contract specified that NONE were to be allowed to be passed on for preservation.
Presumably the intention was to reduce risk of technology transfer, and also to protect the market for new aircraft.
I assume thats why the much suggested sale of the RAF Phantoms to Turkey never happened??