EASA and NON EASA

[Kelly Hopper]

Under the new EASA regulations my National licence will have to be replaced with an EASA one to continue flying EASA aircraft at the latest 7th April 2014, that I understand. However, the Gazelle is not an EASA aircraft so can this be flown with an EASA licence or is it possible to retain a National licence aswell? (Suspect not!)

Mods. I know this is a licencing question but it relates to me directly with helicopters and in any case Rotorheads generally answer questions more intelligently than other pages of pprune! :ok:

[GoodGrief]

It's in their type rating list.
http://www.easa.europa.eu/certification/experts/docs/oeb-general/List_of_Helicopters_--_Type_Ratings_List-16112012.pdf

[Kelly Hopper]

That's interesting. Under Eurocopter it is an EASA aircraft but if it was built by Westland it is not!
So my guess being if it is ex military it is not EASA. So the question still remains. How do you fly an ex mil machine?

[Kelly Hopper]

Manufacturer/ TC Holder
Product Name
TC number EU
State of Design
N/A
Agusta/Bell/Westland
47 Series
USA
A
Hiller Helicopters
UH 12 Series
USA
A
ICA Brasov
SA316B Alouette III
Romania
A
SARO
Skeeter 12
UK
A
Sud Aviation
SE313/3130 Alouette II
France
A
Westland
Gazelle AH.MK1 Gazelle HT.MK2 Gazelle HT.MK3
Scout AH1
Wasp HAS1
Wasp MK1B Whirlwind HAR MK.10
UK
A A A A A A A

[212man]

How do you fly an ex mil machine?

With a UK National licence. CAP804 explains all about Annex II a/c, as this will be.

[md 600 driver]

It's the model number that makes either EASA or annex11

If its a 341g or a342j it can only be easa but if its a 341a,b,c,d,,e,f,h,k it's a annex11 aircraft

Some Westland built 341g are civil aircraft and have EASA a/w I know this because I own one also USA built gazelles are 341g

If your licence shows 341g or 342j then you can only fly civil ones but if it says 341/342 you should be able to fly any

[misterbonkers]

When you upgrade to an EASA licence you have the option, for an extra £35, to be given a national licence with national types on. Mine all came through together so just keeping them in the same, impossibly small, new licence holder.

[Kelly Hopper]

Good info and largely answered so many thanks.
With an EASA and National licence then what about type renewal? 2 experience/test requirements for the same aircraft? Surely not?