tansor launch???

[Mercyman]

Does the single voyager cover the Tansor requirement as I noticed it was over the north sea yesterday (racetrack pattern).

[lj101]

No it doesn't. Voyager is still in the 'trials' stage.

[BEagle]

Voyager is still in the 'trials' stage.

And the jury, one learns, is still very much out.....:uhoh:

[D-IFF_ident]

'Trials' stage or 'Trails' stage? :cool:

[Indicating Full]

If a single VC10 can cover the commitment then a single Voyager should have no problem - when, as Beagle implied, all the technical issues have been ironed out.

[BEagle]

If a single VC10 can cover the commitment then a single Voyager should have no problem - when, as BEagle implied, all the technical issues have been ironed out.

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Technical issues....?? :\

[Indicating Full]

Sorry Beags - I'm not I the know but presumably the delay has been caused by a technical issue and not, as one ppruner suggested some months ago, part of deliberate plan by MOD to defer payment to future FYs.

[vascodegama]

There is more than one frame needed. The ac on the North Sea is not Tansor.That is a separate task.

[lj101]

D

Trial (Verb)


To carry out a series of tests on (a new product, procedure etc.) before marketing or implementing it.
The refuelling system was extensively trialled before being authorised to refuel our aircraft.

Maybe the USAF will help out in the interim for some TRAILS, that will be cheap :eek:

[1.3VStall]

So what, exactly, is the status of Voyager? When will it get clearance to do a towline and what about trails?

We taxpayers are funding this four-funnel, ocean-going disaster and we deserve answers!:ugh:

[MrBernoulli]

We taxpayers are funding this four-funnel, ocean-going disaster and we deserve answers!:ugh:
Four funnels? For two engines? Well I'll be darned!

Scarebus - a load of poo. :E

[1.3VStall]

So, come on you chaps and chapesses on 10 Sqn. What precisely is the status of Voyager, and what exactly is the prognosis for the aircraft?

[air pig]

No too good at the moment, maybe a trip over the ocean again to the desert, in a west bound direction in the future?

[AdamG1]

Have other countries who have brought MRTT experienced the same teething troubles (apart from falling parts!! ) or is is it the variant that the UK have & we are trying to put square pegs into round holes?

Best Wishes

Adam

[salad-dodger]

Have other countries who have brought MRTT
part of the answer's in your question. Other countries are buying theirs, the UK is not.

S-D

[BEagle]

Have other countries which have bought MRTT experienced the same teething troubles?

We didn't get any messages and Blackadder definitely did not shoot this delicious, plump-breasted pigeon......:\

[Art Field]

I am not making excuses for anyone but it was over 30 yers ago when the VC10 conversion was carried out and that had its problem as had the Victor programme before that. Although we do not know the exact nature of the problem, could a lack of experience and expertise be at least part of the cause for the delay.

[lj101]

Although we do not know the exact nature of the problem, could a lack of experience and expertise be at least part of the cause for the delay.

Do you mean the manufacturer of the refuelling system and mission planning system?

[Art Field]

I should perhaps have said current re the experience of AAR trialers

[lj101]

They've got a couple of the best (IMO) ex AAR VC10 Captains working for them as civilians, so I would say that experience and expertise aren't the issue.

[vascodegama]

If the 2 individuals are who I think you are talking about then they have nothing to do with trials.

[Art Field]

I certainly would not wish to cast aspersions on the ability of any of 101 Squadrons captains, indeed I was one in the late 80's and I am sure the high standard required from us has been maintained.The problem seem to bet the equipment necessary to safely and effectively do the job is just not up to it as yet and the solution to that has to come from the manufacturer who may be short on experience.

[D-IFF_ident]

The AAR equipment is manufactured by Cobham. They've been doing it longer than anyone else in the world.

[BEagle]

Perhaps, D-IFFers,

But Arters has a valid point:
....the manufacturer who may be short on experience.
I doubt whether anyone at Cobham these days has ever actually flown in a tanker, let alone has any real practical AAR experience.

And as for the major manufacturer whose 'specialist' actually said "A year ago, we knew nothing about trails"......:oh:

See PM, by the way.