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Samuel
27th Oct 2012, 18:40
Flying DH Mosquito KA114. - YouTube

Here you go! Take a flight in the NZ Mosquito flown in this instance by Dave Phillips, from Ardmore south of Auckland to Auckland and back.

500N
27th Oct 2012, 19:01
That was superb, thanks for posting.

The sound of the engines !

What I would do for a flight in a mossie.

fantom
27th Oct 2012, 19:10
What I would do for a flight in a mossie.

Would you like to meet my sister?

Onceapilot
27th Oct 2012, 19:21
Very nice !
Could imagine flying one from that. Presume the warning horn was for gear, with the throttles pulled back? Also, why was the Mossie formating on the Spit instead of the other way around? Surely we have learned enough about dissimilar type formations?

sycamore
27th Oct 2012, 20:16
2 seater Spit ,and probably a cameraman...

Onceapilot
27th Oct 2012, 20:32
OK, wooden rotor chap, that I can discern. But, why is the more agile aircraft leading?

Herod
27th Oct 2012, 20:49
Thank you. I've just played it full-screen, and with the headphones at full volume. That's my hearing gone for a few hours, but well worth it.

Samuel
27th Oct 2012, 21:17
Spitfire is the two-seater, and was filming the Vampire and Mosquito as they rounded the Sklytower in Auckland [taller than that of Sydney by the way!].

Beeping is due to retarding throttles with undercarriage up.....so I'm told.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e33/Shadblat/818copy.jpg

mantog
27th Oct 2012, 22:39
That's a reet picture!

fergineer
28th Oct 2012, 07:57
And the pilot when he is not flying for some foreign airline blasts around the skies here in NZ in his Hunter...... some people have all the luck....

Samuel
28th Oct 2012, 08:37
He was with ANZ for many years. He also test flew the Anson at Nelson.

1.3VStall
28th Oct 2012, 10:05
Please Mr Phillips can I have a ride?

I don't know why, but I always imagined the Mossie to have a control yoke rather than a stick.

Anyway, wonderful footage!:O

GeeRam
28th Oct 2012, 10:47
I don't know why, but I always imagined the Mossie to have a control yoke rather than a stick.

Both types were fitted depending on type.

IIRC, the FB/NF versions had a fighter style stick, and the B/PR (and maybe T?) versions had yokes.

Wingswinger
28th Oct 2012, 10:48
Wonderful. Long may she ply the skies.

Now I know what my father experienced. He flew Mossies in WWII, 109 Sqn, RAF Little Staughton, Bedfordshire which was a unit of the Bomber Command Path Finder Force.

denachtenmai
28th Oct 2012, 11:25
Thanks for this, I've just watched it and it's glorious.
My wife thinks I'm an "anorak" but do I care? no way, I am just glad that there is another piece of history flying.
Well done to all involved:D
Regards, Den.

Pink Panther
28th Oct 2012, 12:12
What engine type is in this bird ? Being an anorak I can only count five exhaust ports, would have expected six per side.:confused: Great to see it flying all the same, one of my all time favourites :ok:

Dan Winterland
28th Oct 2012, 12:16
Press "Like".

Could be the last?
28th Oct 2012, 12:23
I heard that she was coming to the UK next year?

And that BBMF was looking to acquire one, so who would fly that? Surely it must be one of the Bomber boys:E!

GeeRam
28th Oct 2012, 12:36
What engine type is in this bird ? Being an anorak I can only count five exhaust ports, would have expected six per side.

RR Merlin 25 I believe.

The 5 stack exhausts are because with the proximity of the rear (of six) stacks to the wooden wing root, RR had to redesign the exhausts, and the rearmost two cylinders have a 2 into 1 siamesed stack arrangement.
On later two stage Merlin engined Mosquitos, the longer nacelles allowed for a normal 6 stack exhaust arrangement.

GeeRam
28th Oct 2012, 12:40
I heard that she was coming to the UK next year?

Sadly not.

There was a proposal to do so, but only if the restoration had been completed before this year.

The owner confirmed in a recent interview that the Mosquito will be shipped to the USA soon, and there are now no plans to bring the a/c to the UK in the forseeable future.

Could be the last?
28th Oct 2012, 12:44
Why the States?

blah blah blah
28th Oct 2012, 12:52
Because thats where the owner is from.

GeeRam
28th Oct 2012, 13:06
Because thats where the owner is from.

And he has a rather impressive collection of toys too :ok:

Fighter Factory | Fighter Factory (http://www.fighterfactory.com/)

Pink Panther
28th Oct 2012, 13:18
GeeRam, thanks for education me today, much appreciated.:ok:

Herod
28th Oct 2012, 15:32
Thanks for posting the photograph Samuel. It's currently my computer wallpaper.

soddim
28th Oct 2012, 15:57
If BBMF were ever to get a Mossie it should surely be flown by the fighter pilots - after all, it was the first truly multi-role fighter bomber. Most importantly, it should be kept away from test pilots - their record with historics is very poor.

Scuttled
28th Oct 2012, 17:25
The Mosquito is the aircraft Jerry Yagen is most proud of. No great surprise you would think, but he acquires aircraft by the month and 95% of those in his museum are flown regularly. He bought 4 new aircraft in September alone.

The museum is, in my opinion, the finest of its type in the world and the airshows are amazing. It's very accessible, no ropes or barriers at all.

As I said, the Mosquito is his pride and joy - even when put against his Spitfire, Hurricane, Mustang, B17, Ju 52, incoming Me 262, FW190 and so many more. He is an Anglophile and has many British aircraft and other toys/accessories such as WWII armoured vehicles, telephone boxes, post boxes, uniforms and more. He also has a V1 (and has run the engine) and an enigma machine.

Seeing is believing, the best time to visit is for the Warbirds Over The Beach airshow held every May. The Canadian Lancaster is normally there too.

Hard sell over!

Rosevidney1
28th Oct 2012, 18:52
Thank you, Samuel. Well worth watching even if the envy factor was at its highest reading. :ok:

Dengue_Dude
28th Oct 2012, 22:00
Long may she ply the skies.

Droll, very droll . . .

What a cracking video - thanks SO much.

500N
28th Oct 2012, 22:06
"Sadly the Mosquito is destined for a home in the USA"

As much as everyone would like to see it in the UK, Australia, NZ,
I think we should be thankful someone in this world stumps up a
huge amount of money to get one airworthy and airborne, even if
it ends up in the US.

Samuel
28th Oct 2012, 22:32
Thank for the notes of appreciation, but having been at the initial display and felt the enthusiasm for this wonderful aircraft and the people who flew it, I had a 'feel-good' factor which just had to be shared.

So fill yer boots!:ok:

Samuel
28th Oct 2012, 22:45
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e33/Shadblat/Photoshoot.jpg

Madbob
29th Oct 2012, 09:26
I always thought the Mossie had a control column rather like that in the Canberra, ie a pair of spectacles, not a joystick as here. Obviously this can't be true in all marks, happy to be corrected though.

MB

glojo
29th Oct 2012, 09:31
Hrrmphhh... Just another twin engined aircraft!!!

Just another twin engined aircraft my foot. I can understand why some folks might rate it above the Hurricane or Spitfire but being British I would say we owe those two aircraft so much but to me the Mosquito comes a very, very close fourth or maybe equal third favourite aircraft of all time and how I wish the BBMF had one of these iconic aircraft.

Thank you VERY much for the link and long may that aircraft grace our skies although what a great pity that America has once again stole a march on us :ok::ok::D

pulse1
29th Oct 2012, 10:36
I always thought the Mossie had a control column rather like that in the Canberra, ie a pair of spectacles, not a joystick as here. Obviously this can't be true in all marks, happy to be corrected though.


I believe that the bomber variants had the spectacle control yoke, and a split windscreen. Does anybody know why the difference?

Herod
29th Oct 2012, 16:59
Bomber pilots have both hands on the controls, while fighter pilots use one hand for something else. ;)

Stitchbitch
29th Oct 2012, 20:55
Ah, the age old who'd fly a BBMF Mossie question raises it's head again. Bomber boys? Experienced on twins and mostly QFI or Ex QFI or the Fighter boys, the FB.6 was a fighter bomber after all and the next boss flys twin engined fighters..:E

tartare
30th Oct 2012, 02:03
Just watched the whole video from beginning to end.
Wow - what an aircraft - and what a sound...
Been fascinated by it since I were a lad and built the Monogram kitset.
Thanks Samuel.

Brian Abraham
30th Oct 2012, 05:59
I always thought the Mossie had a control column rather like that in the Canberra, ie a pair of spectacles, not a joystick as hereI believe that the bomber variants had the spectacle control yoke, and a split windscreen. Does anybody know why the difference? The prototype had spectacles but Fighter Command wanted the conventional fighter stick. Many pilots preferred the spectacle since it gave more leverage and the aircraft was more agile. The flat windscreen was bulletproof, and a flat plate due gun sight aiming difficulties through the Vee windscreen. Flat screen gave higher drag though.

The 5 stack exhausts are because with the proximity of the rear (of six) stacks to the wooden wing rootA reason oft given, but historians say it was due to the interference of the rear most stack with the radiator. The radiator extended the leading edge of the wing 22 inches further forward than that of wing on the outboard side of the engine. The 5 stacks also identify the engine as a single stage version, the two stage was 9 inches longer and were able then to have the 6 individual stacks.

Bombers were usually powered by two stage and fighters by single stage engines.

Comparison of fighter and bomber cockpits All info from respected historians, graphic from "Great Book of WWII Airplanes".

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m56/babraham227/P132.jpg

dmussen
30th Oct 2012, 07:49
What great news.
A thing of beauty is a joy forever.
My Pop flew NF 30s and F4 Vamps after the war with 502 ( Ulster ) Sqn.
He loved the Mossie because of its performance from the ground all the way to the top and the Vamp because it was like driving a sports car.
Interestingly he loathed the Meteor which despatched several of his oppos.
He loved the F Mk. 22 Spitfire the best, the lucky bastard.

Per Ardua Ad Lounge Bar:cool:

DiggerOne
30th Oct 2012, 17:44
My old man flew both Beaufighters (272 Sqn) and Mossies (and, post war, Vampires too) but always said he preferred going to war in "the mighty Beau." Mainly because it was "built like a brick sh***house".

Tea White Zero
30th Oct 2012, 20:38
Pink Panther - the answer I believe to your question is that the front 2 exhaust ports on each side are connected to a single stub pipe. I think it is due to space?

not sure who is the bigger spotter - you for asking or me for answering!!!:E:E:E

Samuel
30th Oct 2012, 21:12
This Mosquito features in the UK "Aeroplane" currently on sale. A good article too. "Flypast " has done likewise on the Anson in Nelson. This aircraft debutes at the same show as the Mossie and it was quite fascinating to see them together in the air!

tartare
30th Oct 2012, 23:23
Samuel - I saw there was a Go Pro attached to the cockpit frame.
Is the video from that available for posting?

Samuel
31st Oct 2012, 00:42
Not that I'm aware of...but that doesn't mean 'no'!

RUCAWO
31st Oct 2012, 10:25
dmussen, is your father Victor from Millisle? If so i have photos of him getting the flight in the Spitfire at Ards back in 2006.

Baron 58P
31st Oct 2012, 13:13
The hooter was going because it was on very low engine power so so that the Vampire could keep up....!

E49
3rd Nov 2012, 06:46
Further to the successful completion of DH Mosquito KA114, just announced in the latest (December) issue of Aeroplane magazine that Glyn Powell's own Mosquito, NZ2308 will go to the UK. Glyn has made a deal with the 'Flying Mosquito Trust' to purchase his T3 Mosquito dual control trainer that he has been restoring over a period of 20 plus years. This is no rumour or fly by night deal, its the real thing which means that the UK will at last have its very own airworthy Mosquito.

tony draper
26th Dec 2012, 20:45
There's a new clip doing the rounds,leastwise I think it is new,apologies if it has been posted already.:)
Mossie Photo Mission by Scott Slocum - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xvp2AeM68iM)

Samuel
26th Dec 2012, 22:30
It is posted: see "Mosquito over Auckland" but no worries: I could watch this video all day!

A A Gruntpuddock
27th Dec 2012, 00:27
The forward fov seems to be very good compared to modern aircraft.

jimjim1
27th Dec 2012, 06:10
Nice picture of the merged exhaust here, and other photos too.

Mosquito KA114 | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151040919234713&set=a.10151093188014713.441468.265224834712&type=1&permPage=1)

I tried to embed the image but to no avail.

jimjim1
27th Dec 2012, 06:20
In this photo Mosquito KA114 | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150910047629713&set=a.10151093188014713.441468.265224834712&type=1&permPage=1) there is at top centre a horizontal white pointer with an apparently associated circular knob. It is mounted right on the cockpit coaming with two cables/tubes running along the coaming to the left.

I thought at first that the pointer was some kind of rate of climb/descent indicator but I am now veering towards possibly aileron trim control and indicator?

In the in-flight video the pointer is displaced slightly clockwise from the neutral position.

Anyone know?

500 above
27th Dec 2012, 06:51
I thought at first that the pointer was some kind of rate of climb/descent indicator but I am now veering towards possibly aileron trim control and indicator?

It's the rudder trim.

GGR
27th Dec 2012, 08:04
Big thanks to TD for posting the Scott Slocum film.

The low level parts are stunning. I was lucky to have done my PPL training at Hawarden in 1976/77, home base to the ill fated Barton crash aircraft. British Aerospace looked after her. Most weekends in the summer you could be privy to a private show on her way to and from airshows. I count myself incredibly fortunate to have shared the experience.

GGR

Halton Brat
27th Dec 2012, 11:22
Having watched various videos of this great aircraft in flight, I can't help but wonder about the Fighter Command requirement for a control stick rather than a yoke - the pilot seems to require a 2-handed grip most of the time.

Was this simply a 'cultural' requirement? I think that the P-38 Lightning had a yoke........

HB