LPC / EASA ATPL(H)

[Adroight]

I apologise if this has been asked before but I have searched and cannot find the answer. The new CAA EASA forms are a little confusing to this easily confused individual so perhaps someone would be so kind as to point me in the right direction.

I hold a UK JAR ATPL(H) which is valid until 2015. I have just completed an LPC revalidation and am trying to work out which forms that I downloaded from the CAA website are the ones that I need to send to CAA for the LPC revalidation. (The TRE was a non-UK examiner who had not completed the new CAA EASA forms before)

I have completed the following:

1. LPC SPH/MPH Issue 5 (SRG\1174) which has been completed by the TRE.
2. SGR 1173C Issue 01 which has also been completed by the TRE.
3. SRG 1104 Issue 08 (Application for EASA Part-FCL Licence)

I am assuming that as we are past the changeover date I must apply for licence conversion even though my JAR licence is still current?

Also previously I had always been under the impression that an LPC revalidation was free but it now seems that there is a charge of £86 - along with the £136 for the licence conversion?

All answers gratefully received. Thank you.

[212man]

Some quick answers, and links to find the rest.

You do not need to change your licence - if it is a UK issued JAR-FCL licence you can use it till it expires.

There is no charge for an LPC

SRG1174 is no longer valid.

Have you checked that your non-UK TRE is in the list of approved examiners with PLD?

Scheme of charges: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/269PLSAmd.pdf

CAA EASA transition website: EASA Licensing and Training Transition | EASA Transition | Personal Licences and Training (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=2330&pagetype=90)

CAA EASA FAQs website: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2330/h-FAQs%20May%202012.pdf

[WOMBAT45]

I suggest you look at Stamdards Document 14. The new form is 2138 I think.

[212man]

SRG2138 is for the examiner's record submission - not the licence holder.

Also, SRG1173C (which you say was completed) is for a rating RENEWAL - not a REVALIDATION. If, indeed, you required a RENEWAL then the assessment, training and testing for that needs to have been done by an ATO. For a revalidation, the form is SRG1773B: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG1173Benabled.pdf

More guidance in 1173E: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG1173Eenabled.pdf

[Adroight]

Thank you 212 man - you have just saved me much time and expense. I owe you one.

It is a revalidation and the TRE is approved so I will now have to send him a SRG1773B with apologies and request more of his time. As he said to me - "the bloody paperwork takes longer than the test!"

[Adroight]

212 - one more Q please?

What form replaces the SRG/1174? Surely there must be a form with all manoeuvres/procedures for the TRE to use which then has to be submitted with the 1773B?

[Hughes500]

adoright

The examiner now completes his form which he has to do 4 times, one for you one for your countries caa, one for him and one for your countries caa.
basically you either fill in an 1173 a/b/c/d depending on what you are doing.
if you have let your lpc lapse then you have to fill in an 1173c and d send them with the examiners form. Examiner will certify your ratings page and send his copy of the pass form ( 2138 )off to your CAA.
What used to be filling in 3 pieces of paper has now gone to 17 bits in some cases and you cant even do it on line, madness !!
Now if your examiner has not had a UK CAA briefing your test will be invalid !!!
Have fun:ugh:

[HillerBee]

Since the 1st of October every Non-UK Examiner needs to do the Non-UK examiner briefing before he can conduct any test. And before a test he needs to send an email to the CAA which has to be confirmed first before he's allowed to do the test. So in other words your LPC is invalid!