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Bertie Thruster
28th Sep 2012, 11:23
Ok ..I'm struggling and I'm hoping to find the right answer from knowledgeable 'Rotorheads'!

Scenario:

Private operation with privately owned, UK reg helicopters. No AOC required. So therefore neither 'Commercial Air Transport' nor 'Public Transport'

Pilots being paid, therefore 'Aerial Work' as far as licencing goes, ie they require a commercial license, not a private licence.

Question:

Is there an ANO/EASA reference to an upper age limit for 'aerial work'? (similar to the 65 age limit for CAT or PT)

eivissa
28th Sep 2012, 11:33
Aerial work is covered and regulated by EASA under PART-SPO (special operations).

More info here:
EASA - Opinions (http://easa.europa.eu/agency-measures/opinions.php)

under 02/2012 Opinion PART-SPO and relating CRD.

Bertie Thruster
28th Sep 2012, 11:54
Thanks eivissa, digesting now!

Bertie Thruster
28th Sep 2012, 12:03
Still struggling!

Anyone? Age limit for what used to be called aerial work?

An answer for this would also help greatly: EASA land...'special ops' (underslung loads) private aircraft but the pilot is paid= 'Commercial air transport' or not?

Any further help greatly appreciated.:ok::ugh:

JimBall
28th Sep 2012, 13:33
Can't find any ref to age limits.

Here's what "SPO" means:

SPO.GEN.101 Scope


(a) This Part establishes the requirements to be met by an operator when operating an aircraft with crew members and task specialists in specialised operations.
(b) Specialised operations include, but are not limited to, the following activities: helicopter external loads operations, helicopter survey operations, human external cargo operations, parachute operations, agricultural flights, aerial photography operations, aerial mapping operations, glider towing, aerial advertising, calibration flights, oil spill work, stringing power line operations, pollution control activity, survey operations, news media flights, flying displays, aerial entertainment, competition flights, clearing saw operations, animal herding and rescue, maritime funeral operations, veterinary vaccine dropping flights, scientific research flights, avalanche mining operations, construction work flights, television and movie flights.




But they also allow themselves leeway to add other types of flight to the list. SPO will encapsulate all the above, whether private or paid.

None of this is yet in force.

Bertie Thruster
28th Sep 2012, 15:16
Thanks Jim.

Interestingly those requirements will be for an 'operator'. Presumably that infers an organisation with an operators certificate. Not a private owner?

Or can non AOC holders (eg private owners) be 'operators' as well?

eivissa
28th Sep 2012, 17:27
"Annex VIII - Part-SPO, technical requirements for specific operations, including commercial and non-commercial operations."

No specification on operators, which is reasonable as it also involves non-commercial operations. It should regulate your planned operation, be it commercial or not.

As mentioned before, it is not yet in power and still in the "opinion phase".

170'
28th Sep 2012, 18:37
Bertie T
Check your PM's

Aesir
28th Sep 2012, 19:14
As long as a pilot can maintain his 1st class medical certificate he will never loose his CPL licence. However he can not JAR-OPS air transport work (fly paying passengers). He can do anything else if he wants.