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Bouff
17th Aug 2012, 10:29
One for all you 2Gp truckies. Was posed an interesting question at work yesterday and DSA aren't playing ball, but do any of you know the sale cost of a K model in its most basic form (ie straight a/c cost, no service support package attached, etc) Looking for historic sales figures...
:ugh::ugh:

allan907
17th Aug 2012, 11:59
Have a look at Australia's recent transfer of C130s to Indonesia. The cost? Ferk all.

tucumseh
17th Aug 2012, 13:35
Whenever an aircraft ditched we used to get asked this question by the MoD department dealing with the salvage claim. How much does a (e.g. Lynx, Tornado or whatever) cost?

As a one off, the cost is astronomical, so the rules say based on a batch of 10. The last time, I asked what Mark and was it fully fitted with all its avionics (which can easily cost more than the airframe). The Department toppled as they weren’t allowed to reveal to me what the incident was, although I could guess. “What difference does it make?” I said the answer could be anywhere between £15M and £30M, which is a lot when you’re a Norwegian fisherman on 50%, or whatever.



Their decision was to go for the highest possible cost and cough up, even though that wasn’t the Mark that had ditched.



That’s where the money goes folks.

Heathrow Harry
17th Aug 2012, 16:26
Wikipedia quote a US source as $62mm "fly-away" (whatever that means ) for a J

elsewhere :-

A C130H costs about 34 million. The latest version, C-130J, costs $66 million. A long version of the J costs just under $100 million.
An AC130 will cost upwards of $132 million(H) -> $190 million(U)

SX983
17th Aug 2012, 19:48
Original contract price of the C130K was £969,000....(From Flight magazine August 1965)

Geezers of Nazareth
18th Aug 2012, 09:47
For what it's worth ... The US DoD released the following a few days ago, amongst a large number of other Contracts:

*AIR FORCE*

Lockheed Martin Corp., of Marietta, Ga. (FA8625-11-C-6597-P00127) has been
awarded an $83,000,000 contract modification for one C-130J production
aircraft. The location of the performance is Lockheed Martin Corp. of
Marietta, Ga. The work is expected to be completed by July 31, 2015.
AFLMC/WLNNC, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio is the
contracting activity. One hundred precent foreign military sales to Norway.


From this, it would appear that the C-130J that sadly crashed in Scandinavia is to be replaced.

Chugalug2
18th Aug 2012, 15:17
SX983:
Original contract price of the C130K was £969,000....(From Flight magazine August 1965)
Indeed, or in round figures £1M, ie £66M for 66 aircraft. To that was added a further £66M in British supplied avionics etc (tripled UHF/VHF Rx/Tx, autopilot incompatible with US wiring looms, downward looking periscopes (not required as Navs could CARP out of lower side windows as everyone else from the A's onward had done), astrodome fitted into FD enlarged upper escape hatch apperture (with alarming tendency to crack in pressurised cruise) etc etc.
Better to have simply spent a bit more on FIIS and ESF and kept the change, but that would have prevented PM Harold Wilson from telling the Commons that half the cost of these aircraft was in £ Sterling. "'Ere, 'ere, 'ere!".
Very mindful of the pound in your pocket was Harold...

tornadoken
19th Aug 2012, 05:55
So how, I hear you ask, did (£1Mn) $2.8Mn/1965 become $83Mn/2012?
(I have £750K as announced Unit cost at HS681 chop, Feb 1965), whereas UK 1994 order for 25 C-130J was at an announced Unit cost of £33Mn.

In part, a sweetheardt deal, 1965: incredible as now seems, Lockheed was about to shut the Marietta C-130 line: a run of (48, May,1965) 66, Jan 1966 was manna. In part general erosion of money's value: UK 1965 average male earnings were not much more than £1,500 p.a: today is that £28K? In part massive capability enhancement. But that doesn't explain all, does it?

effortless
19th Aug 2012, 08:09
£1,500 average pay in 1965 is a bit optimistic. 1968, £1,000 was a good wage.

Heathrow Harry
19th Aug 2012, 09:00
apparently average UK wage in 1965 was £ 1250-19-00

its gone up by 30x in the intervening period