View Full Version : Another Spitfire mystery !
9th Aug 2012, 10:26
Known about this one for a while.
They are now suggesting that the remains of a second person have been found at the site !
Police recover remains from World War II Spitfire crash site - Community - The Southern Reporter (http://www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk/community/police-recover-remains-from-world-war-ii-spitfire-crash-site-1-2444260)
9th Aug 2012, 10:39
Speaking of aircrew deaths in training a read through this is eye opening,hardly a day without some accident, must have been almost as many lost in training as there was through enemy action.:(
NE Diary 1939-45; Incidents 19th October 1940 to 29th November 1940 (http://www.bpears.org.uk/NE-Diary/Inc/ISeq_10.html)
It is a interesting read for those interested in other wartime events.
9th Aug 2012, 12:21
And quite a lot in peacetime. Lad from our village killed in one c. 1960. It's nice to know they are all commemorated in the National Memorial Arboretum.
9th Aug 2012, 13:14
I think it more than likely that all the remains were not recovered at the time of the accident.
9th Aug 2012, 15:09
That would be the most obvious answer.
I really do not know what the press are angling at !
Time will tell.
9th Aug 2012, 15:17
Clearly not all remains were recovered, relatively common in wartime. No time to dig right down. Unlikely to be a second person. Unless some poor farmer was out for a walk at the crucial moment.
9th Aug 2012, 15:35
Unless some poor farmer was out for a walk at the crucial moment.
With a long suffering wife who reckons he has been down the pub a bit longer than usual :ok:
Don't suppose you could squeeze a little girfriend into the cockpit of a Spit ?
9th Aug 2012, 15:42
Hancock's Half Hour - The Diary (Pilot Sketch, "H For Hancock Calling") - YouTube
9th Aug 2012, 16:12
If it was good enough for Kate Beckinsale in Pearl harbour, it could have been ok for a wee Scots lass !
It must be possible. I saw it in the movies :}
9th Aug 2012, 16:18
Well it was possible in a Hurricane. No less a pilot than Roland Beaumont managed to transport a WAAF in one. Got himself into a bit of trouble over that.
9th Aug 2012, 16:35
Best not stir up the "Spitfire/Hurricane" thing again.
Led us down a slippery slope on my last Spitfire thread :*
9th Aug 2012, 19:22
A 'passenger' in a single seat aircraft was possible.
My mother, a WREN CPO during WWII has assured me that she flew in a Grumman Martlet (Fleet Air Arm Wildcat) by sitting on the pilot's lap!
She also flew more conventionally in Sworfish, Albacores, Barracuda and others and has stated that she has been over the original Forth Bridge in a train and aircraft and under it in a boat and an aircraft (a Stringbag!).
I believe it might be said that she had a 'good' war, if such a thing is possible.
She is currently 95 years old and still going strong and must be amongst the oldest surviving WRENs.
Sorry about thread drift.
9th Aug 2012, 19:31
Not at all, a wonderful snippet. :ok:
9th Aug 2012, 19:32
They'd know if it had been a two seat Spitfire . . . wouldn't they?
9th Aug 2012, 19:34
Nice one Smeagol.
At least we have opened up possibilities.
I raise a glass to your dear old Mum :ok:
9th Aug 2012, 20:30
In the late 1940's and through early fifties the RAF was losing more aircraft each year than there are in the whole RAF today! Don't know where I saw that but there were alot of scary planes around then.
That doesn't count all the test pilots and aircraft last as civilians.
9th Aug 2012, 20:59
I remember reading about that. They were a lot of Wellingtons around used for training and Mossies. Training on those was nearly as dangerous as flying over the Reich during the war.
I think in the end there was a huge re-think about training and it's risks sometime in the fifties.
People had become hardened by the war and it was almost expected. I remembered reading Sir Philip Joubert de la Ferte's biography. He commented about how upset he was when in the early pre war days of the RFC some of his colleagues died in accidents. He was almost apologetic about it because as he explained people were not used to casualties unlike now. Now being the fifties.
Times have changed thank goodness.
9th Aug 2012, 21:22
I once witnessed a single seat F104 Starfighter taxi in and two people got out. The pilot had an attractive, long legged, mini-skirted girl sitting on his lap. As we said at the time, "Now that's what you call a bang seat!"
Not sure I'd want to do that. But in this case, best we have no names, no pack drill. ;)