Chinese teen kills eight in knife attack



Link (http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-teen-kills-eight-knife-attack-reports-102629246.html)

A teenager has been arrested after killing eight people and wounding five others in a knife attack in northeast China, state media reported Thursday.

The 17-year-old, which was identified only by his surname Li, barged into the home of his girlfriend armed with a knife following an argument and killed two relatives of the girl, the Legal Daily said.

As he left his girlfriend's home in Liaoning province's Xinbin county, he stabbed six more people to death and wounded five, it said.

He was arrested at the scene of the attack, late on Wednesday night, and was taken into custody, the official Xinhua news agency reported.

No other details were immediately available. Calls made to local authorities and police in Xinbin county went unanswered.
Violent crime has been on the rise in China in recent decades as the nation's economy has boomed and the gap between rich and poor has expanded at an alarming rate.

Experts say the increase in assaults shows that China is paying the price for focusing on more than 30 years of economic growth while ignoring problems linked to rapid social change.
Studies have described a rise in the prevalence of mental disorders in China, some of them linked to stress as the pace of life becomes faster and socialist support systems wither.
However, authorities stress that murder, which carries the death penalty, remains far less common than in most Western countries.


Hmmmm....

However in China, gun crime is rare, as private citizens are forbidden from owning and selling guns. Link (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-04/21/content_856308.htm)

No matter what you do humans will find ways to kill humans... Clearly, controlling the weapons is not the answer.

Bet this doesn't cause the outpouring of 'moral outrage' on here that a few people being shot in the USA does.

8 people dead.....really?

But, but, but.....


What will I use to slice my biltong?:eek:

What will I use to slice my biltong?

Obsidian. Well-crafted obsidian blades have a cutting edge many times sharper than high-quality steel surgical scalpels

Obsidian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian)

Of course, they will try to ban that as well before long!
Guns/Knife's/Cars/Aeroplanes/big sticks don't kill people. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. So not much anyone can do about that.

Bet this doesn't cause the outpouring of 'moral outrage' on here that a few people being shot in the USA does.

Well... They're only Chinese... Plenty more where they came from... http://www.hqrafregiment.net/images/smilies/fishing.gif

Chinese could kayak over to America and put up a good fight

We were looking yesterday in the window of a shop in Castelló d'Empurias which sells not only knives but swords - scimitars, samuri, medieval European etc. - many of which are carried at the Festival de Trobadors each September (and in every other town which has medieval festiovals). Whilst there is an occasional stabbing in Barcelona, despite there being so little restriction in selling sharp weapons here the amount of use of them in crime is very rare.

So as with guns, it's not the weapon, it's the user.

Aren't Chinese more opressed and prone to follow,the rules compared to other country's?

Bet this doesn't cause the outpouring of 'moral outrage' on here that a few people being shot in the USA does.


of course not. the USA (once) a free country with freedom of speech allows critisism right or wrong and that allows those with a personal agenda to have a platform, of course china is a different case so the huggy fluffs will rail at the US over it's gun laws while ignoring the hard facts of reality.


but for China, no huggy fluff rallying cry ,as oft quoted by Helen Lovejoy..

Helen Lovejoy (née Schwartzbaum) is Reverend Timothy Lovejoy's judgmental and gossipy wife and the mother of Jessica Lovejoy.

Her moral convictions explains her famous catchphrase, delivered in times of civic crisis (moral or otherwise): "Will someone please think of the children?".

Experts say the increase in assaults shows that China is paying the price for
focusing on more than 30 years of economic growth while ignoring problems
linked to rapid social change.

Yeh right - the economy has been booming so I'll kill a couple of rellies of my
GF and while I'm at it knock off six strangers and injure another five for good
measure. :*


....murder, which carries the death penalty,....

But who is gonna pay for the bullet? Old ma Li or the GF? Under Chinese law
someone's fam has to cough up the cost of the round. I'll bet an even ¥1,000
on it being the GF.

Slasher's comments are the only ones to carry any weight whatsoever! :ok:

they key there slasher is 'Experts say...'

in other words someone trying to push a debating point or an agenda with to$$ all to back it up; wheel out the ol' 'Experts say...' quote.

Ex, as in has been, and spurt as in a drip under pressure, Mr SG?

I used to sell bayonets in my militaria shop. I had to be careful to instruct any buyer not to unwrap the bayonet until they got it home, as owning a bayonet was not an offence, whereas carrying it openly in the street most certainly was. What was daft was that right next to my shop was a household store where you could buy cooking knives of a similar length to my bayonets, and which were equally capable of inflicting a fatal wound. It used to strike me that anyone intent on stabbing somebody would hardly draw attention to themself by buying a bayonet whereas they could pick up a long knife next door without attracting attention to themselves.

Bet this doesn't cause the outpouring of 'moral outrage' on here that a few people being shot in the USA does.

Of course it won't, same as there wasn't the same "moral outrage" when Breivik went off. In other words, if it don't happen in the USofA then there is no "moral" issue of the same magnitude.

of course not. the USA (once) a free country with freedom of speech allows critisism right or wrong and that allows those with a personal agenda to have a platform, of course china is a different case so the huggy fluffs will rail at the US over it's gun laws while ignoring the hard facts of reality.

Except most of the "moral outrage" on this forum comes from those OUTSIDE the USofA, meaning that their "platform", their "agenda", has sod all to do with what has actually happened and is only an excuse to have a pop at the USofA.



I now wait on a certain group of people to tell us what "extra controls" should be put in place to prevent this happening again, which movie or video game influenced the killer, and how "nobody needs knives, ban them"..........

Wait no longer, knives are banned on the streets/public gatherings in Norway.
Per

As they are in most places, Per, but buying them isn't...........

So how will a ban on having a knife with you when in public prevent stabbings, as seen in the UK, any more than the laws in Colorado "prevented" Holmes from doing what he did or "Li" in the latest one from China?

I'm all for allowing only one shot guns

gives us more of a chance after the first bang

How about allowing only breakaway knives where the blade stays in the first victim?

How do you carve meat with that, lom?

So how will a ban on having a knife with you when in public prevent stabbings, as seen in the UK
Doesn't prevent all stabbings, of course but does prevent some - the police can stop someone they know to be carrying and nick them for having knives, and some percentage of those would have gone on to use them.

He almost certainly used one of these; a traditional No1 chopping knife. They are found in every Chinese household.

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee224/fareastdriver/IMG_0004.jpg

Doesn't prevent all stabbings, of course but does prevent some - the police can stop someone they know to be carrying and nick them for having knives, and some percentage of those would have gone on to use them.

But the law saying "thou shalt not carry a knife in public without good reason" still doesn't stop them carrying, nor does it stop them buying.

That was the point being made, unless you ban the sale of all knives...........

You know, while we're on the subject of banning things, why don't we just ban everything.

His Majesty Michael Bloomberg (Mayor of NYC) banned smoking in virtually every part of NYC. He wants to ban 24oz., or larger, sodas from the city, he has banned trans-fats from restaurant menus, as well as salt shakers on restaurant tables. He now wants to ban infant formula in city hospitals, forcing mothers to breastfeed. (Whether they like it or not.)

Then we have the subject of the banning of knives, guns and what-nots.

F**k it. Ban everything. Ban it all. We'll all just walk around naked. With everything else banned. That'll solve it all.

If that includes banning politicians, I'm all for it

F**k it. Ban everything. Ban it all. We'll all just walk around naked. With everything else banned. That'll solve it all.
Just don't try that in Scotland!

Yes, that includes a ban on politicians.

EVERYTHING must be banned.

<except for sex of course. If that was banned might as well shoot oneself>

Gertrude:

What, walking around naked in Scotland? Does that cause the sheep to get excited?

No - its been banned :D
BBC News - Naked rambler Stephen Gough denies park nudity charge (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-18956350)

What, walking around naked in Scotland? Does that cause the sheep to get excited?

Given the temperatures people are used to in Scotland, I think the "shrinkage" is more likely to make the sheep die from laughing

How do you carve meat with that, lom?


Simple just use more than one knife, the meat is not going anywhere between slices :E

except for sex of course. If that was banned might as well shoot oneself
... haven't you forgotten the comma after "shoot" RedGreen Firework1?

Hellsbrink, what Gertrude the Wombat said.
Per

Which means you didn't answer the question, Per.

Why not?

EDIT..

This goes out to Per and GtW

If these "laws" are so effective, explain the graph found in this report (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/datablog/2012/apr/12/london-knife-crime) covering London alone for 2010 and 2011 for ONLY "homicides by sharp instrument".....

I can get you plenty other stats, from the Guardian too, showing a 12% INCREASE in teenagers carrying knives since 2002, a knife-related criminal incident occurring every 52 minutes in London alone, kids as young as TEN being armed with knives, what more do you want. So tell me how the "ban" on carrying knives works when those with a "criminal" bent will carry, and how some law will stop some loon running around with a samurai sword, as has also been seen in the UK.

It does not prevent stabbing, but it gives the police the opportunity to check and confiscate. Might reduce the number of stabbings, that's a good thing.
Per

J Edgar Hoover was fond of giving the advice that if a Latin American came at you with a gun, not to be too worried as they were woeful shots. If he had a knife in his hand though!!!! Lookout!

But, per, unless they stop and search EVERYONE, ANYTIME and ANYWHERE then it will do the total equivalent of sod all, as Gert Olseb found out, as a 73 year old woman found out in a restaurant in Oslo, or the three ticket inspectors on the public transport in Oslo, and these are just three cases from this year...

I can list more stabbings, Hellsbrink. As I said the law doesn't prevent stabbings, it might reduce the number of. Personally I could not care less. I have a nice knife collections, but I only carry one when outdoors and then not for protection.
Per

Exactly, it MIGHT reduce. That doesn't mean it WILL, which was the point I was making from the start.

If someone is going to go out and about and decides he will carry a knife of some sort, without a "good reason" to be in possession of, then he will do it anyway as he has a total disregard for the law anyway.

And unless that person is caught being "up to something", then the chances of him being stopped and searched will be very low indeed. In other words, said law does NOTHING to prevent the carrying and use of knives.

Let's ban the lot!

Think about it, you won't even be able to f@<hidden> yourself.

This will allow stupid debates on aviation related forums to progress without hinderance.


Caco