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13th Jul 2012, 18:24
I am a Master's student at Cranfield University and I am conducting research concerning challenges in the ATC on-the-job training (OJT). The aim of this research is to investigate why trainees fail in OJT and to make recommendations to minimize the failure rate at this stage.
In order to do so, I have designed an online administered survey consisting of 5-6 demographic questions and 5-7 opend-ended questions.
I am looking for current trainees in OJT, newly licensed ATCOs, OJT instructors (OJTIs), and ex-trainees who were unsuccessful in OJT, who are willing to participate in this survey and would like to share their challenges and how they tried to/are trying to overcome these.
You will be kept anonymous and the data you will be providing can only be accessed by me and my supervisor from Cranfield University.
I would be most grateful if you are willing to complete the survey. If so, please leave me a private message.
(sorry for my name, it is in progress, PPrune entered this name for me and I did not see where to edit it, but my new name is in progress. I'm not able to reply on this thread somehow -my messages are not posted-, so that is why I'm editing this message all the time)
14th Jul 2012, 02:08
1)bad human resources, thus the student is no good at all to do the job
2)bad human resources, thus the instructor is no good at all to do the job
Looking for a 3th option but so far I have no clue
14th Jul 2012, 12:18
To the post originator...
First, get a pronounceable name. Personally, I find it a little insulting to view your name as if a chimpanzee has been let loose at a keyboard.
Second, if you want such information, have the courtesy to explain who you are and why and for whom you are "conducting research" and what makes it "non-commercial". Who are "we" who are going to minimise failures?
Third, your methodology appears somewhat disjointed. How are you to obtain meaningful data from your target groups? Current trainees have not yet failed (and, we trust, will not fail); recently licensed ATCOs, by definition, have not failed; and any ex-trainees who did not succeed might not have a dispassionate view of the reasons.
The Many Tentacles
14th Jul 2012, 13:55
What 2 sheds said
15th Jul 2012, 10:09
Good god I didn't know you had to have approval for a name before you can post on a forum, FFS - Get over yourself. Insulted, REALLY???:ugh:
15th Jul 2012, 11:00
Yes - just as with posters using a FFS expletive.
15th Jul 2012, 11:16
Yes! I agree with 2 Sheds, if anybody wants to start a rational discussion on professional matters, they should be prepared to say who they are, with suitable caveats if they are at some risk to their career for asking, and why they want to know.
The Aviation Industry has had a century of being let down by reasonable sounding people who turn out to be sensationalists when they have got what wanted. Some journalists in the sixties were referred to as "Holiday Jet Plunge" correspondents as that was the only aviation phrase they knew, no matter how often they were told less sensational information!
Some of us have been around long enough to know better than to talk about the job unless we know to whom and why, and feel, yes, insulted, if people just launch into a topic.
15th Jul 2012, 11:43
I concur with 2 Sheds remarks
15th Jul 2012, 13:17
I also agree with everything said by 2 SHEDS, Well put JF
15th Jul 2012, 19:58
I think I saw a post like this requesting similar information some time ago here, same type of random character name as well.
15th Jul 2012, 22:22
good day, i first want to apologise for interupting on this thread. I have been looking for a thread where i can find information and help on my interview on tuesday...i have no idea what i need to prepare for this interview. i have learned what air traffic control is all about and am very passionate about the trade. please help as im running out of time. this can be a life changing opportunity for me...please i beg for your help...anythng that can help me. thank you.
16th Jul 2012, 00:16
you could start by having a look at one or two of the "stickys'' at the top of this (ATC) forum board. I'd imagine the NATS one would be most pertinent.
16th Jul 2012, 04:54
sabai101 - it might help if you said what your interview was for?? Is it the NATS ATCO scheme?? if so, which stage is your interview?
by the sounds of things, you're woefully underprepared, so good luck - you're going to need it :sad:
16th Jul 2012, 04:56
I assume Sabai101's interview is not for an ATCO job. :rolleyes:
16th Jul 2012, 10:44
sorry, NATS ATCO scheme being the trainee ATCO scheme. Not sure they have a scheme for qualified ATCOs.
16th Jul 2012, 12:21
To the thread originator
You have now edited your original post to such a degree that the reasons for subsequent criticisms are no longer evident. It would have been better if you had merely posted again with the explanations.
I appreciate that you started with an apology, but you and your responders are, in effect, hijacking this thread. The idea is to start a new thread for a new topic!
16th Jul 2012, 15:18
You're never happy 2sheds :E
Somewhere In Time
17th Jul 2012, 19:19
Id be happy to participate in your survey. Send me a pm.
And please excuse some of our fellow ranting ppruners that dont seem to understand that if you cant contribute with something positive; DONT POST!