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8th Jul 2012, 01:07
I've got a Sanyo 5 disc CD player and it's stopped outputting sound and vision but still plays and displays the progress of the disc on the LED screen.
I had a stuck drawer and I forced it closed and then I had this issue (I know, I have learning difficulties) I found TWO CDs inside the player that weren't in their recesses (i.e. loose in the body of the player)
I took the cover off and found the missing CDs and a displaced ribbon connector to the output jacks and thought I'd found the problem.
Then I found rattliing round inside the body a little cylinder with a bit of circuit board attached to it. It's about 3-4mm in diameter and about 5mm "tall" with the markings on the non terminal end " E1 10 16 (and I thin the letter "V") Maybe the loose CDs busted the part off and pushed the ribbon out of the connector.
I can't see any obvious missing parts from the panel marked AV 57a (outputs to the jacks) and I'm trying to find where it goes.
if anyone knows what it is, then I'd appreciate the assistance.
I have a copy of the MOTORCYCLE ELECTRICAL TECHBOOK from Haynes, but this is reaching the limits of my electrickery skills. (I want to learn though)
Also, my loyal, faithfull canine companion must really like my amplifier, as he has used it a couple times to mark his terrain. He now sleeps in the bathroom (it's winter here) and the amplifier switches off every time you try to switch it on.
Is spraying half a can of electrical contact cleaner into the amplifier a good idea?
I know this thread is not specifically for electrical items, but I have better results here than on ASK.com and I thought someone would enjoy the anecdote.
8th Jul 2012, 03:12
Since you say "terminal end" and round, it sounds like a 16V electrolytic condenser, maybe 100 uF. Does it have a stripe up the side?
8th Jul 2012, 04:39
I thought someone would enjoy the anecdote.
You're absolutely right. I just got back from dinner with the kids, and haven't laughed so much in . . . oh, a whole day.
Yep, look for the stripe. It's a long shot, but I found a tiny 'L' that was on the luminance tube enclosure of a totally wrecked broadcast-quality camera, and re-soldering that back earned me a year's pay. Go for it.
8th Jul 2012, 05:32
Looking again, whilst the "can' doesn't have a strip down the side it DOES have a black "stripe across the face where the number are. This is opposite the terminals end.
I have been searching the Sony manual thinking this is a part number and if I can see where it goes (without destroying the whole thing) I could get a great deal of satisfaction out of this job. A mate of mine has a very small soldering iron...
If you find humor in someone's tragedy, I could amuse you for hours with motorcycle maintenance anecdotes.
My friends call me the "all thumbs bum"
do you reckon this is a part number?
Can you post some photos to help with identification ?
8th Jul 2012, 07:12
its so small I can't take a clear pic even using the macro function of my coolpix 200!
Maybe I'll take it into Radio Shack.
8th Jul 2012, 09:40
"I found rattliing round inside the body a little cylinder with a bit of circuit board attached"
From the OP's comment it sounds as if the component is loose because the circuit board its attached to has fractured
I somehow think there is little chance of repairing this unless a new board can be found - which be will unlikely
As to the dog infested amp - that probably is now terminally dead. Bin it
Could it be a Higgs Boson ?
Putting on my serious hat for a moment, I have had success in reattaching circuit board fragments, scraping the insulation off the board, soldering wires across the break, if there's enough space and you have a Dremel and tiny drills you can even make holes in the copper tracks and run the wires through. But with the cheapness of replacements this is something you only do if you really want to and have plenty of spare time. OTOH if you do and it works you will sense a god-like feeling of power over your environment. It will enbiggen you.
8th Jul 2012, 21:51
Photographs or it never happened. :cool:
Seriously, this is one situation where "a picture is worth 1000 words".
Not that I can likely help with the question at heart, but others may find it easier than navigating through your dissertation of a description.
8th Jul 2012, 22:34
The laser diode ?
9th Jul 2012, 00:17
Well, has it got a glass eye in one end?
9th Jul 2012, 00:33
The laser diode?
No, as the OP has already stated that the machine plays CDs.
Gileraguy - The component you describe sounds like an electrolytic capacitor. There are two types, radial (http://www.earthshineelectronics.com/59-127-large/electrolytic-capacitor-047f.jpg) and axial (http://media.wholesale-electrical-electronics.com/product/imgage/Electrical&Electronics/2010101000/728d38a9eba1c42371588b7a89ec4b2e.jpg).
To be 100% certain, I would need a picture.
9th Jul 2012, 00:37
"No, as the OP has already stated that the machine plays CDs."
How does a CD drive play without a lazer???
9th Jul 2012, 00:40
OFSO I read you loud and clear...
now be warned of my lack of photo editing skills...
since the circuit board at the base does not look obviously broken, I am now engaged in a fantasy where Sanyo put an extra component in each item in order to foil home based repairs!
9th Jul 2012, 01:07
10 uF 16 V surface-mount mini electrolytic capacitor. The "PCB" comes with the capacitor. It gives the capacitor physical rigidity when its little feeties have been surface mounted on the actual PCB.
9th Jul 2012, 07:04
thank you kindly sir, but checking the parts list I have found no 10uf 16V electrolytic capaciters.
However i have found several C505 1-124-779-00 ELECT CHIP 10uF 20% 16V
could this be the item I am seeking?
gileraguy on a quest...
9th Jul 2012, 07:50
9th Jul 2012, 07:57
Probably. 1-124-779-00 is the part number. C505 is the component number as probably printed on the PCB. ELECT CHIP means it's an electolytic on a chip-type substrate.
9th Jul 2012, 08:23
thanks again for your rapid responses.
That was a good tip about the number on the circuit board Bushfiva.
we're getting closer!
9th Jul 2012, 09:04
Imagine how close we'd be if you just gave us the model number of the product ;)
9th Jul 2012, 11:58
SONY DVP NC 600
9th Jul 2012, 12:20
You utter idgit. :} It was a Sanyo in the first post.
9th Jul 2012, 12:26
You utter idgit. It was a Sanyo in the first po
you should have expected it, really....after all, he's into Gileras :E
9th Jul 2012, 12:30
I have a Runner VXR 200.
I couldn't think of a better username when I first logged on.
I also have a Yamaha RD350LC.
9th Jul 2012, 13:15
C209, C221, C244, C505, C506, C816. Got the manual here (http://elektrotanya.com/sony_dvp-nc600.pdf/download.html) but I've no idea whether that's generally a good place to get it.
9th Jul 2012, 14:06
Also here: SONY DVP-NC600 service manual download pdf repair instruction scheme free : GiveMeFile.Net (http://www.givemefile.net/smanuals/dvd_players/sony/dvp-nc600.html)
edited to add: It's across the 5v input of IC502 and 0V, on the MB-98 board side A in the AV DECODER section
9th Jul 2012, 17:07
Can't believe I just tried to download that pdf how sad is that.
11th Jul 2012, 04:44
You utter idgit. :} It was a Sanyo in the first post.
I was thinking "Sony" when I typed "Sanyo"
early onset demensia?