View Full Version : Arabian Spring - Rebound


stuckgear
7th Jul 2012, 09:01
Following the Arabian spring. we have seen the Muslim Brotherhood candidate elected in Egypt, a man stabbed to death by islamists and fatwa on dogs and frogs..

As Binghi posted here : http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/489660-kill-all-black-dogs.html

Morocco: "...Mokhtar Laghzioui, editor-in-chief of the Arabic newspaper Al Ahdath Al Maghribia, "must be killed" in reaction to his appearance on the new pan-Arabist news channel Al Mayadeen, where he defended individual rights for Moroccan people, especially pertaining to sexual liberties..."

Libya: Back to bloody anarchy: Andrew Malone revisits Libya and finds a country riven by torture, mass murder and savage vengeance | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170025/Back-bloody-anarchy-Andrew-Malone-revisits-Libya-finds-country-riven-torture-mass-murder-savage-vengeance.html)

Ethnic cleansing, summary executions without trial, mass killing and mass graves, rape, torture tragetting of media...


Some 25,000 Tawergans have now been placed in ‘refugee camps’, which are, in effect, little more than prisons.
The people in these camps do not dare leave: Misrata militias scour the country for anyone from Tawerga and regularly kidnap and torture black Libyans suspected of helping Gaddafi.
And even in the camps, fortified with barbed wire and watched by armed guards, the refugees are not safe from the marauding militias.
In a series of attacks, fighters from Misrata have opened fire on camp residents, killing both men and women. The latest happened at a camp for 1,700 Tawergans in Tripoli this week, when men from Misrata in four cars attacked with guns.
So bad has the situation been that some want the Nato-backed rebels to be tried for war crimes. The tragic irony is that Britain, France and the U.S. imposed a no-fly zone and helped overthrow Gaddafi to stop him committing war crimes.
Medical charities now refuse to work in Misrata. They pulled out after accusing rebels of bringing torture victims in for treatment - only to take them back for more torture once their wounds had recovered sufficiently for their bodies to cope.
A senior member of the city’s military council stressed that only rapists and the worst Gaddafi soldiers were executed at Heaven Hotel - and seemed baffled by any misgivings.
‘These people killed our families and raped our children,’ this influential figure told me. ‘If you rape, you must die - you have no rights.’
Nor, apparently, do critics of the killings. In recent days, one Libyan journalist was abducted by Misrata militias from the seafront in Tripoli, the capital, after saying these armed groups are out of control and need a ‘stick taken to them’.
Sulaiman Dougha, the country’s equivalent of David Dimbleby, was found in Misrata 72 hours after being snatched by men in balaclavas. He was tortured and sexually assaulted before being freed with a warning to leave the country - or be killed.



all worked out well then ?



ORAC
7th Jul 2012, 09:19
Want stories of France after the revolution, or Russia, or even the USA (http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/makingrev/war/text8/loyalistsdefeatbritain.pdf)?

There is always upheaval and violence after any violent change of government, it can take decades to fully resolve all the grievances which had been suppressed for so long.

Did it work out? Come back and ask me in 50 years.

Lon More
7th Jul 2012, 09:23
It's spreading ever closer to home.
Eventually the West is going to have to take a stand and turn the entire Middle East into a large radio-active glass plateau

ORAC I don't suppose England after the Restoration was much fun either.

TZ350
7th Jul 2012, 13:30
" turn the entire Middle East into a large radio-active glass plateau "

I wish we would come up with a viable alternative to oil real quick .......

No fun for the oil workers working in radiation suits in that temperature.:E

pigboat
11th Jul 2012, 13:22
Following the Arabian spring. we have seen the Muslim Brotherhood candidate elected in Egypt, a man stabbed to death by islamists and fatwa on dogs and frogs..

Dunno how much truth there is in this report... :eek:

Calls to destroy Egypt's Great Pyramids begin. (http://www.aina.org/news/2012071094423.htm)

Wiley
11th Jul 2012, 22:53
But wait... there's more...

Calls by Islamists to Destroy Egyptian Pyramids Begin | #1 News Site on the Threat of Radical Islam (http://www.radicalislam.org/analysis/calls-islamists-destroy-egyptian-pyramids-begin)

According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids—or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi‘i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”This could quite possibly be re-titled "How to destroy the one income-producing industry in Egypt in one easy step.". I visited Egypt not long after the last major massacre of tourists (in the Valley of ther Queens). For me, it was fantastic - what amounted to my own private tour of Egypt. However, for the poor buggers whose survival depended upon the tourist trade, it was horrible. As an example, just six of us attended a light show at Thebes, in one boat. 200 boats sat there empty, and over 1000 seats at the show were unoccupied.

PLovett
12th Jul 2012, 00:38
Nearly all western media (and governments) have portrayed the "Arab Spring" as some sort of cry for democracy from the poor down-trodden masses. With very few exceptions this has been the general line.

This ignores completely the very complex web of religion, sects, power and influence that competes for domination of the area. Many deride him but for me I find the best commentator on the region is Robert Fisk (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/). He at least attempts to unravel the linkages that befoul the region and will ensure the place remains volatile for years to come.

Lonewolf_50
12th Jul 2012, 21:21
which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax.

Seriously? Cover the Pyramids with Wax?

Is someone taking the piss?

pigboat
13th Jul 2012, 22:52
This youth movement has women covered. (http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/young-363612-muslim-world.html)

The mistake made by virtually the entire Western media during the Arab Spring was to assume that social progress is like technological progress.

N707ZS
14th Jul 2012, 06:58
Why don't they like frogs? Sorry forget that just read it in the kill black dogs thread.

stuckgear
14th Jul 2012, 12:00
and as the troops and operations in the 'stan are being scaled down, after Khazi [sic] pushes for a withdrawl....

Top Afghan MP killed in suicide attack at daughter's wedding - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9399740/Top-Afghan-MP-killed-in-suicide-attack-at-daughters-wedding.html)

The lone suicide bomber killed Ahmad Khan Samangani and other high-ranking local security officials when he struck at the entrance to a hall where the wedding was being held.

El Grifo
14th Jul 2012, 13:05
One would never have imagined in ones wildest dreams, that such things would be happening today in the world of Islam :ugh: