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5th Jul 2012, 17:23
I was just wondering how successful graduates are of Flight training organizations such as CTC wings and Oxford Aviation Academy are at acquiring jobs?
If you graduated how long did it take for you to get a job or how long have you been waiting for employment with an airline?
What airlines recruit less that 150 hour pilots from CTC? as many pilot job I have seen require more hours + type rating?
6th Jul 2012, 09:08
I heard from OAA students that there were guys called by Ryanair in few weeks after completion of training while at CTC you have to wait approximately 6 months to find a position with an airline.
These periods are very changeable so we can not actually say how long we will wait for a position.
CTC state that all their cadets were placed with airlines and I can not say that is not true because I don't know anybody from CTC which wasn't placed.
OAA have an employment statistic on their website which many students told me that is fake. I do know few guys from OAA which weren't given a job.
CTC place cadets with: Easyjet, Jet2.com, DHL, Flybe, Monarch, Thomson airways, Thomas Cook, Dragonair, Cityjet, British airways and Qatar airways.
6th Jul 2012, 11:14
Future-pilot, we are being slightly biased towards CTC there. This may be due to you having more familiarity with CTC, however I wouldn't brand OAA's statistics as being 'fake'. Look what has happened with the PTC... Maybe you have been listening to the frustrated few not able to get a job yet. I'm sure one will be on the horizon for them soon.
OAAs empoyment statistics are here - Employment Statistics | Oxford Aviation Academy - OAA.com (http://www.oaa.com/pages/training_courses/ab_initio_europe/employment_stats)
My sympathies go out to the four BMI baby pilots recruited this year! :sad:
6th Jul 2012, 12:45
Cadets may be getting hired, but I'd be just as interested to know on what type of contracts! I've read that the contracts from the likes of Brookfield and CAE are akin to slave labour...:(
6th Jul 2012, 18:44
Thank you for your replies I appreciate them very much.
The reason I asked the question was that I have some gliding experience and a dream of mine would be to train to become a commercial pilot.
6th Jul 2012, 20:14
As they say, there are lies, dammed lies and integrated flight schools statistics:cool:
7th Jul 2012, 11:51
Okay son, whatever you say.:cool:
7th Jul 2012, 11:54
I am going to Oxford's open day in August.
I was also concerned about employment in regards to the required hours.
planesdontanswerback first of all congratulations! When leaving Oxford what hours did you have (if you don't mind me asking)?
8th Jul 2012, 00:37
The way I see it, getting into a airline cadetship after studying those 3 year aviation degree/diploma schemes is nearly nil. Unless your in your late 20's/early 30's with another degree then I think you'd be better off doing a bare CPL in a year or less and go job hunting. If you still have the passion, determination and are willing to go anywhere and everywhere there WILL be a job. Theres also instructing....;)
8th Jul 2012, 04:41
It seems that if it wasn't for Ryanair the numbers for 2012 would be terrible. I was just reading for a UK FO the base is 26K pounds per year. That is truly slave labour. Drop nearly 100k pounds on a fATPL to be making base of 26k. thats nuts!!
Oxford really have got a money making scheme here.
planesdontanswerback Would you be so kind as to tell people what kind of job you got, how much did it cost you to get the position, if anything, and what is your salary.
After dropping 100,000 Euro into flight training, people should have a realistic expectation of how much more financing they will require, and what sort of financial return they can expect on their investment.
Is it really considered slave labour, or modern day Indentured servitude?
8th Jul 2012, 07:09
Not forgetting Mutt, that Ryanair charge you £26k or so in order to get your type rating.:ok:
8th Jul 2012, 08:24
FC, that is exactly what Mutt is on about. Yes, some of these kids are getting "contracts", but they are slave labour!
8th Jul 2012, 09:02
Fully with you there PP:ok: