Hey All I'm making a Naips for android app. It's still a few weeks away from release but I thought I'd see if there was going to be any interest for it before I buy the data license from Air Services Australia :) Also, Are there any features in particular you think you might like?

Cheers,
Luke.

http://i.imgur.com/ZqIBH.jpg

I haven't committed aviation for over three years now but I'm interested.
(I wonder if I can remember my log-in?)

Yes yes yes yes yes!

Bring it on!

I have loved the apple-based products but cannot bring myself to buy another apple product.

Android YES!

FRQ CB

Yes, very keen. :ok:

Any idea on pricing as yet?

And will you be able to submit Domestic flight notification forms from it?

Yes, interested - was considering doing that myself, but you've beaten me to it.

Most important feature for me is the ability to submit flight plans, and to resubmit after typos - which might mean retaining the data.

Saving plans for later use would also be nice.

Fetching data not so important, as it's easy to use the Airservices web site to get forecasts, notams, daylight ... but would be nice if those were included ... and should be easy enough to add to the app. No strong need for click-here maps for location or area codes - though other people might like them.

I'm NOT interested in decoded (plain language) forecasts. I like the compactness of the coded versions - I like to carry printed versions because you never know when you'll end up somewhere unplanned. And I use them regularly enough (almost every day:O) that I can usually read them. Also I wouldn't trust a translator to get it right 100% when there are strange variations or when someone posts hand-cut forecasts.

I understand that the iPhone/iPad app does it's web I/O more-or-less as a screen scraper. Something like that might save you dealing much with Airservices.

Oh yeah! :D

The ONLY reason I am sticking with the iPhone at the moment. Good luck with it!

Really with ALL the fees aviators pay etc, ASA should be providing the data for free or have their own apps.:ugh:

I would be very interested, as would all the guys I work with who aren't (i)lliterate!;)

I wouldn't need plain language forecats either, the ability to submit at least a single leg flight plan for me would be ideal. It would be great if it could store aircraft details by registration, so you don't need to re- enter all the details/equipment each time.

Cheers, HH.:ok:

Very interested mate, just got rid of my iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 so I'll be getting it for sure!

I'm hoping iBal and a few others get done as well in the future!

Hey all,

Thanks for the great feedback. Pricing will be very much determined by the cost/royalties needed to be paid to AirServices Australia but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it :) What I'm more interested in right now are what people would like to see in the app so I can make it as useful as possible.

I do plan to support submitting flight plans and such. I guess the question then becomes are people happy to wait a bit longer for all the functionality before release or have an earlier release and add the other stuff over time...

Once I've completed Naips, I do plan to create a Weight and Bal app similar to iBal (already working on it, it's the app next to naips in the image above haha) and possibly an app for ERSA. but they are a few months off yet..

Cheers,
Luke.

Faaark !., digital data from ASA is expensive !

For a 1 year licence they want ;
$1145 for 4 updates of the ERS(A) (PDF only !).
$1145 for 4 updates of the AIP (PDF only !).
$2860 for 2 updates of the IFR/VFR charts.
$2860 for the digitised WACs.
$1715 for 4 updates of the DAP E & W (PDF only !).
$1145 for 4 updates of IFR/VFR/GPS Waypoints, aerodrome data, Navaids, IFR routes, ...
$1145 for 4 updates of airspace data, (FIA, PRD, CTA, CTR, ATC sectors, ...)

Keep it simple.

MET and NOTAM recovery ( particularly full text if needed ), SPFIB updates and the ability to store the briefing on your phone as evidence that you have received the data.

Weight and balance, fuel calculations, first light, last light etc etc are options for weekend warriors.

Keep it simple.

MET and NOTAM recovery ( particularly full text if needed ), SPFIB updates and the ability to store the briefing on your phone as evidence that you have received the data.

Weight and balance, fuel calculations, first light, last light etc etc are options for weekend warriors.

Agree. An easy method to access Location Briefings and SPFIB updates is my most pressing need. Using the Airservices website to get that stuff on a phone is a total pain.

Having ERSA would also be nice - the Jepp equivalent is a disgrace and practically unusable, although each port can be downloaded individually.

The 3 sections, and Index, of AIP can be downloaded already for free (just no Indexing).

BTW: I'm happy to pay!

Hi Gyroscope,

I think most people that would use the app would be using it either during flight, or once they get to their destination. Most of the flight planning would be done in front of a computer somewhere, due to larger screens, flight planning software, printers etc.

What I'm getting at is think of all the reasons why you would want to use a NAIPS app when you're flying or when you get to your destination. These would be helpful tasks the app could provide.

E.g:


Easy access to updated TAF's/ARFOR's.
Submitting flight plans in an easy format
Amending flight plans in an easy format
:ok:

Yes! Count me in! I would pretty much want all that previous posters have mentioned and if possible the ability to save a flight plan.

Willing to pay as well.

Yes much awaited. Would be great if it is priced competitively.

Also, if you need any help in testing or coding, happy to help.

Gday Luke,

I notice from your screen capture on the Location Briefing it notes Domestic Only.

The ability to pull down international ports would be good.

As well as being able to obtain briefings in the Charts menu on NAIPS.

Mainly the Papua New Guinea TAFs and ARFOR.

Of course that would depend on extra subscriptions I suppose...

Nav.

Hey Resume,
Actually the other button is just off the screen and currently you need to scroll down to toggle it. I'll Touch up the UI a bit more before release :)

Cheers,
Luke.

Yes please!

NAIPS on an android device would be awesome!

Where do we send the cheque?;)

Count me in!

YES YES YES! ........ I feel better now :} Definately happy to pay :ok:

Definately in......can't wait

For sure.

Just bought Galaxy S3. Nearly got iPhone for the sole purpose of NAIPS.

Most important feature which Apple version does not support is UPDATE SPFIB. Apple only recalls the original I believe.

Also the ability to save such update.

ET and NOTAM recovery ( particularly full text if needed ), SPFIB updates and the ability to store the briefing on your phone as evidence that you have received the data.

+1

ERSA would be extremely handy.

No need for AIP! Should know that stuff. Forget it.

this is all music to my ears, the screen shots look good

feature wise what everyone else has said
-the ability to download and hold the met and notams for use while the phone is in flight mode / out of range
-support for phones and tablets

Count me in...

I had a look at what is involved in writing the code for this.....time time if only we had more.

Fantastic effort, please keep us posted.

regards:ok:

YEP! :ok:
Priorities for my money are/would be - for info requirements, :

1/ MET, NOTAMS first plus essential AD data (eg, from AsA FAC/RDS and similar from elsehwere when extending app offshore such as PNG and further) - with ability to save for offline viewing if no internet access.

2/ Then Significant Points (ARPs, WPTs/FIX/RPT PTs/NAVAIDs), PRDs, Airspace, RTEs - able to be viewed in GoogleEarth and via coordinate Ident & coordinate download, preferably by vicinity to current location or given location, or by selection within area.

3/ SUPs
4/ AIP update info (for checking that already have current, otherwise user can access update from AsA) - an maybe in future portal for downloading updates.

5/ ditto Charts such as WAC, TAC, VTC, VNC, etc - status of latest amendments current, and then maybe in future portal for downloading updates (copyright issue with AsA so you'd have to be reseller I s'pose)

6/ APCH Plates etc can be downloaded from AsA anyway if required, so lower priority.

And in terms of functional priority, after 2/ above (SIG PTS), some flight planning functionality

Please just take my money already! :ok:

Most important feature which Apple version does not support is UPDATE SPFIB. Apple only recalls the original I believe.

Also the ability to save such update.

ERSA would be extremely handy.

No need for AIP! Should know that stuff. Forget it.

Using a combination of NAIPS App & Oz Runways, both from the Apple App Store, I routinely update SPFIB, have access to the ERSA & AIP.

Need any 'Beta' testers?:ok:

I will certainly buy it. :DThis sounds silly, I know, but make sure that the flight plan can be cancelled through NAIPS. At the moment a fault in NAIPS stops this and it is necessary to go via the web site to cancel a plan.:ugh:

Hey All,

Thanks for all the great feedback! Naips is going to be an ongoing project for me so I'll definitely have all the basics in place for release and follow shortly with the more advanced stuff.

As you know there are heaps of different device sizes to support for android. My goal is to have the UI optimized for as many devices as possible. Currently I'm using my Galaxy SII and Asus Transformer prime. What are you all using? If I start to see a trend I'll probably use that device to test against. Android is pretty good at making the experience consistent across all devices anway... I've been trying to think of a good excuse to buy another tablet ;)

Cheers,
Luke

Galaxy SII works for me and most of the people I know who would want to use it.:ok:

Yeah, I'm in there too :)

HTC Velocity. Know a bunch of people with the same.

My work is full of sgs2's and a couple of HTC's, tablet wise most have asus so you are on the right track

Galaxy S3 and keen as mustard to get on it.

lol.... HTC wildfire :ugh::ok:

+1 HTC Velocity

HTC Desire HD.

Mine is the Samsung Galaxy Tablet 10.1 running Android Honeycomb 3.2.

Don't forget us tablet users who have more space/functionality than phone users.
ASUS Transformer T201 +

HTC Velocity phone and Samsung Galaxy tablet.

My wife is in big trouble if they make a "Wife App" without all the short comings of the original unit...................:oh:

Im in too...

TAF/METARS/NOTAMS are all I really use.

A feature I like of one of the iPhone NAIPS apps is the ability to quickly hide NOTAMS in the list that arent relevant. For example, YSSY - quote often only one or two of the 5+ NOTAMS are relevant.

Perhaps even a some basic tailoring of TAF/METAR/NOTAM based on an ETA and a buffer (say ETA -1/+3 incase of off schedule operation).\\

Looking forward to it.

Samsung Galaxy S III

plus

Looking at a tab (but hesitating only because I am worried I'll be left without NAIPS again if I don't get an iPad after sloughing off my iPhone).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No4GzXzNIY8

Please good sir, will you take my money?

FRQ CB

Hey All.

Just thought I'd give you a bit of an update :) This weekend I've been focusing on optimization of the layout for phones and tablets. For all tablet users, if you've used gmail, you'll know that there is a menu to the left and an action screen to the right. I'm taking a similar approach with NAIPS. On large screen devices there will be a menu on the left and an action screen on the right. On Phones, You will be presented with a menu that when clicked will open another screen :). The android support libraries will support this type of functionality all the way back to android 2.2 so i'm making the minimum OS requirements Froyo (2.2) which should cover 90% of you all anyway. I'll post some screenshots on Thursday night when i'm back home!

So keen to get this out to you all!

Cheers,
Luke.

Don't forget us tablet users who have more space/functionality than phone users.
ASUS Transformer T201 +

I'll be predominantly a tablet user myself :cool:

Luke.

Nokia 5110 :E

Seriously, HTC Velocity & Samsung Galaxy Tablet

Galaxy S III and hopefully soon Galaxy note 10.1 (tablet).

FRQ CB

Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if i'm repeating someone.

SPFIB's seem to have been covered, so all I need from there is the ability to submit stored flight files. Thanks.

Hey All, just a really quick screenshot of the tablet layout :)

http://i.imgur.com/by4E6.jpg

Cheers,
Luke.

Looks Great!

Any idea when you will release it?

Hi Luke,

What you have shown for the phone and tablet looks great and I can't wait until it is available for purchase.

Just wondering if it will be possible to access charts (e.g. SIGWX and the like) through the app? I don't know about anyone else but I think it would be a nice feature to have even if it doesn't make it into the initial release of the app.

Good on you Luke :ok:, can't wait, but I will.

Hi all,

Just thought the people following this post might be interested to know Jeppesen has finally released an Android version of Mobile TC, although they haven't appeared to have made an official announcment. It seems to work well though I have only used it in demo mode so far as I don't have an electronic chart subscription (yet), I am using it on a ASUS TF101 Transformer with Android 4.0 ICS.

Unfortunantly they are yet to release a Flitedeck version of the app for Android but it is a start and hopefully they will follow up in the not to distance future (but I am not holding my breath). They might get their butt into gear if lots of people take up Mobile TC quickly.

Check Thrust.

Just wondering if it will be possible to access charts (e.g. SIGWX and the like) through the app? I don't know about anyone else but I think it would be a nice feature to have even if it doesn't make it into the initial release of the app.

Good question. I will most likely add stuff like that in, but it probably won't make it into the first release. My Goal is to have it out within the next four weeks. I know it's taking ages and thank you all for your patience! If only there were more hours in a day haha.

Cheers,
Luke.

Can I just say what a breath of fresh air Android are compared to the straightjacket that my was my useless iPhone (albeit a good looking straightjacket)?!?!

I'm truly excited about NAIPS (and ERSA and DAPs and AIP Book) for Android, even if version 1.0 is only 1/10 of OzRunways.

FRQ CB

PS To be fair to the OzRunways folks they've done really really well but not expanding to include Android will prove to be a big mistake methinks.

I'm truly excited about NAIPS (and ERSA and DAPs and AIP Book) for Android, even if version 1.0 is only 1/10 of OzRunways.

Thanks mate :) and yeah, this is definitely going to be an on-going project for me and oz runways are two years ahead haha. But it would be great if i can produce something to the standard of Oz eventually!

I hope that you can make some money out of this otherwise you'll get jack of it and I'll be stuck with V1.0 for the next two years. Be careful to not undercut (typical typical aviation mistake) but also don't take the piss and overcharge.

On that topic I would like to share a non-aviation story which absolutely parallels the way that we pilots try to have a stab at tendering and quoting jobs.

My sister-in-law is a dedicated small business operator with her own decently run photography business (kids, weddings etc). She worked out a great little ordering system which involved large envelopes printed with instructions on one side and a note on the bottom to "Please complete order form on opposite side" directing the clients to a tear-off order form attached to the back. (Nothing new or novel but certainly tailored to her system.)

Not to be outdone another [shonky] lass with a semi-fancy camera (i.e. "instant professional") came on the scene with a similar package/pricing structure (but exactly $1.00 cheaper on everything. She plagiarised everything off the front of the envelope including the "complete... opposite side" instruction. The only problem was that she didn't have an opposite side (she just had order forms inside). No homework or viability study, she just trusted that if someone else can do it for X then she could just buy cheap supplies and do it for X minus a $1 and it should be just about right. Lazy cow.

Sorry for the diversion but the bottom line is that I can see room in the smartphone/pilot market but there's not enough for two Android competitors. I don't want that room to be taken up by a project that's going to fizzle for lack of viability.

Best of luck mate,

FRQ CB

Will submit a flight plan via stored flight file be in V1.0 please?

To be fair to the OzRunways folks they've done really really well but not expanding to include Android will prove to be a big mistake methinks.
They are not the only ones, we use a number of systems at work which at the moment are only available for (i)stuff, I contacted the developers who said "we are ony concentrating on Apple products".

Only time will tell if this is the right strategy, but maybe it's hard to see the future when you have an apple in your eye!

Hmmm ... Gyro, looks like your timing might be unlucky. Have you seen

PPrune: http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-general-aviation-questions/492158-naips-naips-windows-ais-met-changes.html

or

Airservices: Airservices Pilot Briefing Services (NAIPS) project | Airservices (http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/projects/naips-project/)

Looks like Airservices are (finally) upgrading the web version. They'll have to do that because there are some format and code changes coming down from ICAO, and they (say) it will be a better website.

Might still be worth having a special app, but might also be worth waiting to see what Airservices release.

Keep at it, Gyro. Unless Airservices comes up with a proper "m" version of it's site, a dedicated app will always be better, especially for phones.

Hey All,
Yeah I had heard that they are changing it up a bit. I'm going to keep building the app though and hope that the interface to their system doesn't change too much. Hopefully it will only be different calls the app needs to make to get the data. Even if it does change, I've built the app in such a way that I only need to change the way it gets the info... everything else should be able to stay the same (famous last words... haha). I can still see some value in have a dedicated app (being able to get saved briefings and such and be able to save the to the device, perhaps a dashboard with stuff you do regularly ect..). I have decided however not to buy the data license until the new website comes online as it's fairly expensive and if ASA does do a good job in making the site smart-phone friendly, It would probably make my app redundant. They may not even let me have a license once they put the new website online...

Cheers,
Luke.

I still can't understand why Airservices should insist on the apps developer being issued a licence. We can all access the same data as NAIPS via our computer internet explorer or such, and that software does not have any Airservices licence :confused:.
Also the Airservices NAIPS software is free so they are not losing out - unless they intend to start charging fees to access NAIPS :*.

Hi LesBigg...

I guess you don't believe the "no charging statements" on the ASA info in their briefing pages and in the pprune page @<hidden> "NAIPS and NAIPS for Windows and AIS/MET Changes"

They charge others for licensed use of aero/av data, but for
the data and services they're providing through NAIPS - for free* through their website (so far, says the cynic) - they really shouldn't be charging licensing fees unless they're also prepared to vet, test and authorise the application as "appropriately safe and providing the right data in the format they expect to be uploaded (eg, FLTPLN etc). Probably their existing usage conditions say somewhere in 4pt print that the free usage is limited to end users, not 3rd party service providers? :hmm:
* Free charging for such would be more than adequately covered in their other service charges picked up throughout their service chain!

I'm in, I just binned (literally!!) my iCrap, S3, and Galaxy Tab2.0 for me!

G'day Gyro,

What's the latest? I'm ready to buy.

FRQ CB

FRQ, if you hadn't noticed, the whole NAIPS/pilot interface thingee is being turned on it's head in the next couple of weeks. Gyro's probably waiting for the dust to settle first. :ok:

G'dday Gyro.

I'm glad someone is giving this a go as I am no Apple fan. Android for me.

Any updates when it'll be available?

Keep it up! :ok:

Gyroscope, from what I have seen of the new AsA website for NAIPS, it's just as clunky and un-phone friendly as before.

I reckon you should press on with your NAIPS for Android! :D

Phone friendly! The Airservices web version of NIS is terrible! As usual designed by somebody that knows nothing of aviation needs:{.

The old stand alone version of NAIPS was not too bad compared to the new version. Glad to see the "If it is not broke don't fix it" principles have not been followed as usual:rolleyes:.

"As you are aware there are problems with the NIS SOAP interface which is preventing access to the 3rd party systems. Our network technicians are currently working on the problem." Come on Justin you and your mates just about stopped aviation today or is that the plan :ok:

naips on my I pnone no loner works, rang AS and now have ASA added to my pass word. Does any one :)have help re replacement for Naips on the I phone.

A new version of NAIPS for iPhone that uses the new interface is making its way to an App Store near you as we speak. Keep checking for updates!

thanks for the info

Hey All,

Now that ASA have updated their website I'm back in development mode! My plans have changed somewhat though.. I've decided to make a Super App! My plan for it is to eventually house all sorts of different tools from weather services, weight and balance calculators, flight planners, charts and once those are polished move onto cooler things like GPS stuff.

This does present a few problems though:

1. Sales methodology

I will need to buy data licenses annualy from ASA for the different types of content separately (i.e weather services, ersa, ect..). So my initial thoughts were to have each type of content as an annual in app purchase/subscription. For example If you only wanted weather information, You only buy the subscription for the weather info and that will be all that's available to you. If you wanted weather and the ERSA, You could buy each of those subscriptions and the content for both of those would be unlocked. This way you pay for only what you need, not the app as a whole, which to cover costs would be fairly expensive. What are your thoughts on this? Please keep in mind this isn't the place to discuss actual prices, more so just a methodology of what you think will work well.

2. Android Version

Making a weather app by itself isn't terribly complicated from a UI point of view. However, thinking ahead to some of the things I would like to include in the future, older versions of android don't support a lot of the features I want to add. At this stage, I am creating the application for Phones & Tablets with android version 4.01 (Ice cream Sandwich) and Higher. I'm focusing on the tablet UI, but it will still work well on Phones. There is quite a bit of work involved in making the app backwards compatible, so the question comes down to: would you like more support for older devices at the cost of development time? Or would you like quicker releases that only support icecream sandwich and above?

3. Release

As this is a huge project, I was thinking of releasing functionality as I develop it (thoroughly tested of course). I'm almost finished with the weather side of things So I thought I would release the app, but initially you'll only have the option to purchase the weather info... As I add new functionality in future releases, (flight planning, Charts, Weight and balance Calculator, ect...) You will then have the option to purchase those as well.

So yeah, there is a bit of an information dump for you. I would be really gratefull for your feedback and suggestions. This is all pretty tentative at this stage, hence why I'm asking for your input!

Cheers,
Luke.

Thanks for the update Luke.

Re version support: I support your current plan. OS upgrades and HW upgrades/substitutions are pretty common and easy to do - so wouldn't bother with anything less than (your suggestion) 4.01. Me, I happily sitting on 4.03 for the time being.

Sales & Release Strategies: I think you should release as you go, with beta releases available for testers (with your disclaimers, of course). Accept that for some apps to work properly you would have to use AsA-licensed data. Your proposal for modular locking/unlocking in relation to subscription data is probably on the money.

With regard to general look & feel, HMI, etc - you may be better releasing some stuff earlier than others to get feedback before you waste too much time on the bigger money stuff (and potentially have to redo)?

Thanks for the Feedback Roulette, I like your thoughts on beta testing. I'm not exactly sure how I'll get that to work though, maybe just feed some false data to the app because I don't think I'll be able to use ASA's Data. I'll figure something out!

Cheers,
Luke.

Good on you, Gyroscope. As I mentioned before, the new website is just as hard to use on a phone as the old so an app would be terrific.

Re compatibility, I suspect the big screen phones (4"+) are on 2.3 (as is mine; I don't like 4.x), so compatibility with 2.3 would be desirable. Further back than that wouldn't be necessary IMO.

I would recommend an incremental increase in capability; too much too soon will increase the likelihood of bugs which will turn people off. The first priority for me would be updates eg SPFIB updates, Location Briefings. Make sure you have a "save to PDF" function or some other method of saving any briefing offline.

Re payment, separate payments for each component would work. I like the idea of an ERSA; I hate the Jepp airport directory.

Looking forward to the results of your handiwork! :D

does weather and notams really need to be a subscription service? i can understand the other stuff however and i as someone who really really wants this would probably pay it as long as it doesnt cos too much but there are lots of other free places to grab weather and notams from, on a phone more people might pay but loading the asa website on a tablet is less of a big deal.

to compare it to the ios apps stand alone naips is only $10 one off. i really prefer one off for naips access.

and have it save the user name and password. It really is a pain to use naips currently without this function.

Remember - Many of us suffer from "large fingers"!!

How is it coming along?

Gday Luke,

That methodology sounds good. As you say will probably be the easiest and most convenient way. It should make the app suited to a greater amount of people as you can buy the resources to suit individual requirements.

I'm running 4.2.1 on a Galaxy Nexus. Waiting on stock for the Nexus 4!! :)

Also I'm running Cyanogenmod 10 on a Galaxy Tab 10.1.

Bloggs, 2.3...? ICS was great! I hated Honeycomb on my tablet which is why I went to CM10.

Nav.

Hey all,

Just thought I'd post a quick video of what the app looks like so far. Would really like to here your feedback! It was a bit of an impromptu thing and my first time actually recording something on my computer :) I'll make sure I use a better mic for the next one.

HpyafeLClvg

Cheers,
Luke.

Excellent! :D

SPFIB updates priority No 1. :ok:

looks good

is the met zoomable to fit the screen better?

sorry if this was mentioned, i didn't have the audio up

Hey Lolami,

Yeah, I'll figure something out to make it a bit more readable :)

Cheers,
Luke.

Mate,

looks good but when is the expected release date?

Cheers
AB

Hey AB,

Hopefully end of Jan (Depends how long the data license stuff takes). I'll post more video updates as I go if people are interested.

Cheers,
Luke.

Looks Awesome Luke!

Hi Luke,

Some great work there, are you planning on including weather chart functionality ie. SIGWX and Grid point winds etc.?

Hey Gus,

At this stage, they probably won't be in the initial release, as they are a bit trickier to implement. But should be included rather quickly in the following updates. I'm also not sure how i'm going to make it save a local copy (not as easy as just plain text like the normal briefings) but i'll figure something out..

Cheers,
Luke.

nice mate.

Hey Luke, how you going? Hanging out for this one!

Hey Seconds,

Data license requests have been submitted and the app is about 95% ready for initial release :) Hopefully not long now. Will upload another video soon with a bit more in-depth look at the weather side of things.

Also, seeing as you've all been waiting so patiently I thought I'd give you a quick teaser of the next section of NavBag that I've been working on ;)

Note: This is still in the proof of concept stage.

http://i.imgur.com/yYID88W.jpg

Cheers,
Luke.

I like where this is heading

Hey All,

Just thought I'd give you a quick update. I just received an email from AirServices saying that the data license contract should be sent out to me later this week for review. Yay for progress!

Cheers,
Luke.

Haven't checked in for a while and really like what I see.

As far as what I am after:

Weather
Flight plan submission

Weight & balance would be a bonus!

Keep up the good work, looking forward to the day when I can ditch the iPad!;)

Cheers, HH.:ok:

Hey all,

Some of this is a bit of a repeat from the last blog, but there are a few cool things I'm working that you get to see.

Also there were just a few quick things I didn't address in the video that I'll comment on :)

1. On initial release, things like Flight Notification, Wind Temp profile, ect.. will only be single stage. I have been restructuring the back end to accommodated multi-stage submissions and will definitely be rolling it out as a priority after the release.

2. The app will require at least android version 4.0. so it can make use of the new actionbar (long bar along the top) as well as splitting the the UI into different sections depending on the screen size of the device. There are a few more reasons but those are the main ones.

3. I forgot to mention in the video, but for things like the Route Points in a flight notification, when you start entering the first one, a second lot of text boxes pop up underneath so you can add as many as you want. I've put a bit of time into making cool things like this so it's as user friendly as possible!

Hope you enjoy!

23ElJcsGUow

Cheers,
Luke.

is retrieving saved flight plans from the naips server something you are looking at?

Hey Lolami,

Depending on how much work is going to be involved with retrieving flight plans from the ASA Servers (which I won't really know until I receive the documentation), I'll either implement that.. or saving and retrieving briefings locally on the device. Ideally I would like to be able to retrieve them from servers, that way you could create a flight plan on your computer if you find that easier and launch it from your tab/phone. But I will implement whichever one is quicker for release so I can get the app out to you guys sooner. If saving them locally is quicker, I'll look at implementing saving/retrieving from ASA Servers as a priority along with multi-stage flight plans after initial release.

Cheers,
Luke.

Luke,

Love the clip mate, looking good keep it coming! Is going to be a massive anticipation and I hope the app stays around and improves for a long time, i'll be first to buy! loved the end concept of the VCA maps etc, please look at doing the HIGH/LOW IFR charts as well even HIGH9/10 for us jet pilots would be awesome!!

Tks keep it up ! :ok:

AB

Hey Avturbound,

Thanks for your support mate! I'll put in as many charts as AirServices will let me buy haha. Yeah I'm pretty excited about the project and it's definitely a long term thing. I'm looking at dropping down to part-time work so I can work on this a bit more :)

Cheers,
Luke.

Hey All,

Developer blog 3 is out :)

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Here are the Screenshots as promised in the video, They are pretty big because I wanted you to see the smaller detail so I'm just going to give you links otherwise this page would be huge and I don't think the moderators like it ;)

Screenshot - Home Screen (http://i.imgur.com/B77e8Ti.jpg)
Screenshot - Location Briefing (http://i.imgur.com/ecVidop.jpg)
Screenshot - Location Briefing Validation (http://i.imgur.com/022UKny.jpg)
Screenshot - Submit Flight Plan (http://i.imgur.com/pC6p6Nd.jpg)
Screenshot - Preferences (http://i.imgur.com/wz9cGcc.jpg)

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Luke.

This weekends agenda:


Implement updatable Multi-Stage Flight notifications that you can save to and retrieve from ASA.
That's about it haha.

Cheers,
Luke.

Looks great so far!

If you need any beta testers, I'd be more than willing to help. And do you have a date when you are planning to realease it on the Play store?

Looks great - Hurry up! :D

Any word on a release date? Really looking forward to this app.

Hey Hestonfysh,

Thanks for the support mate! Sorry I haven't given you guys an update in a while, I'm in the middle of moving house... fun :ugh: haha. I really want this project to be a long term/on going thing and currently I only have Thursday nights and Fridays to work on the app. I'm moving so I can work every night and and weekends so I can make this app the best it can be and get it to you quicker :)

You'll be happy to know The app now supports muli-stage flight notifications (up to 5 stages, I will work on unlimited once the app is out but that should keep you out of trouble). It can also pull saved (personal) flight notifications from ASA and you can edit them before submitting :) Will work on getting group FN's if you guys think it will be valuable after release.

I will post another video next weekend after the move explaining timelines/progress all that fun stuff.

Cheers,
Luke.

will there be a beta release before this goes live?

Hey Lolami,

I have had a few people using it as I'm developing, but there will be no public Beta as it would be a bit too tricky to work with all the licensing/legal requirements I need to fulfill. Instead, everyone will get a free 1 week trial period before starting a subscription :)

Cheers,
Luke.

Hey Luke,

I know what a nightmare moving house can be but have you got an update for us?

Cheers,

LR