7th Jun 2012, 09:11
Im just back from a trip to Florida, with the intention of completing the JAA SE CPL course over there. Unfortunately I did not get to do the skills test because I had to return home for work reasons.
The Question is do I have to complete the Skills test in the UK or can i do it here in Ireland (where I live)? I understand the CAA and IAA have an agreement for ratings and exams etc but not sure about skills tests. I already hold a JAA CAA PPL and Medical.
Any Advice would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.
I'm presuming it was a UK approved school in Florida that you were training at. I'm pretty confident (although I'm sure you will actually check with the IAA before making a decision, and not splash out loads of money because someone on prune said it was the case) that you can do it in Ireland. However, whether you do it in the UK or IRE you are not simply going to be able to turn up to a school and take a CPL skill test. Regardless of the school you go to, they are going to want to do training with you, so they are happy you will actually pass the test. In the UK at least, you'd need to pass the 170A flight, prior to being allowed to attempt the CPL skill test, I'm not sure if they have this in IRE.
Be advised though, if you sit the CPL skill test in IRE you will be applying to the IAA for an Irish JAA CPL, not the UK.
7th Jun 2012, 12:50
In the UK at least, you'd need to pass the 170A flight
There is no need to do a 170A flight test for a CPL test in the UK. It is though quite a common way of fleecing students for an extra 2.5 rental and some money for the school examinor. They only need to check you paper work then sign the form.
Ok this is true, but having completed all the training except the CPL skill test elsewhere, it is reasonable to assume the new school who will sign the Form 170A would choose to conduct this flight as part of the training they would likely do at the new school prior to releasing them to the CPL skill test is it not?
I did a 170A flight as part of my CPL course a good few years back, but that 2.5 hrs counted towards my 25 hour CPL course I believe, and wasn't in addition to it. At least I wasn't fleeced!! :D
7th Jun 2012, 13:19
He can get a 170A from his previous school if all he needs is the test. No need to get another school to pass him out. And to be honest he will need to recover all his CPL training records anyway.
But did you pay the examinor?
7th Jun 2012, 15:53
It's not just about the skills test though.
ntention of completing the JAA SE CPL course
which I assume means you didn't finish the course.
As you are transferring from one member state to another member state you require both the UK CAA's and the IAA's authority to switch your training.
In my experience the UK CAA have never transferred the training to another member state and required you to start again on the professional licences / ratings (I.e CPL / IR)
7th Jun 2012, 15:55
Thanks for the reply guys.
I did not get to do the 170A, and it was included in the 25hr course. No examiner fees were paid. So its not that bad because i figured i would need a few hours brush up with a new school anyway for local ops, procedures, airspace etc.
I wanted to get a CAA issued Licence so i guess my only option is to head over to the UK to complete? I had a look on the net and it seems all the schools in northern Ireland only train as far as PPL, which would have been handy for me :(
8th Jun 2012, 02:39
You'll probably find it cheaper to return to your original school to be honest even with a flight to the US. You'll know the area, airspace etc and you only have to do 2 flights more at a different school to cover the cost of returning to the original school.
Unless you don't want to.
See whether they'll offer you a discount to return as well? They can only say no.
8th Jun 2012, 07:52
Grecian has it about right.
If you move schools at this stage if going to cause a heap of hassel.