The latest move of the Turkish government to ban the right of strike for aviation workers is in striking contrast with their at any occasion vaunted status of Skytrax Best European Airline and their just recently reinforced European union accession aspirations.. To be " European " you have to act according to European standards. And banning the right of strike is not for sure one of them.
I think Skytrax should reconsider and withdraw the nomination ( which is already marginal for geographical reasons ) and include THY in the number of fist ruled ME airlines that take advantage of their middle age style sociopolitical situations to gain an unfair advantage and kill first world carrier. The Turkish Government is flirting with a little too many girlfriends.. risk is they might remain alone or get some ugly disease...

include THY in the number of fist ruled Arab airlines

Turks are not Arabs and do not appreciate being described as such.

(The same applies to Iranians)

Yea..........you right!! much lower class than Arabs by far!! :=

Yea..........you right!! much lower class than Arabs by far!

That's a disgusting comment.

Back on the track please gentlemen because Yanbancypilot has a point.
THY is run by the fist - just look the way they treated the crew that exercised their right to report "Unfit to fly" the day the law prohibiting strike was brought up in the Turkish Parlement. Normally crew do not report sick simply because they are afraid of loosing their job - that day some did and over two days 305 lost their jobs, sacked by an SMS - that's what I call run by the fist. And they are still negotiating the rate of salary for 2011 :*
As Yanbancypilot states then "To be " European " you have to act according to European standards. And banning the right of strike is not for sure one of them."

Skytrax is in the business of evaluating the product (Airline service), NOT politics.

Travelers who read Skytrax are interested in seat comfort, in-flight entertainment, catering, baggage service, lavatory cleanliness, seamless check-in procedures, airport lounges, cabin crew smiles, on-time performance, on-line ticketing & seat selection . . . .

Travelers who read Skytrax are interested in seat comfort, in-flight entertainment, catering, baggage service, lavatory cleanliness, seamless check-in procedures, airport lounges, cabin crew smiles, on-time performance, on-line ticketing & seat selection . . . .

Glad to read that safety is not on their agenda!

I wonder what all those nice travelers would think if they would be sacked by a single sms, simply because they fell sick.
But I have to realize once again that pilots do not fall under normal jurisdiction and moral values, as they are merely a tool to provide cheap travel.

Brave new world:yuk:

No, not back on track!

Back on the track please gentlemen because Yanbancypilot has a point.

What Numnum said there is most aweful and amounts to the shameful history in my country some 70 years back!

Numnum: Yea..........you right!! much lower class than Arabs by far!!

I think he (probably not she) should immediatly be banned from this forum.
I come to read here every few weeks and have to read dog sh1t like this.
It's an insult to every enlightened individual!

And to browse over this as you did, doesn't make you any better. It seems you just ignore, and that is what has happened here also some time ago.

Nic

I don't think so:=

I think that if you give TURKISH citizens cheap tickets to return home and vote they will praise the airline , because they are told to,possibly.
There are 7 million in Germany alone .
Same work for politica party votes.
Otto:\

Rules change by the day here!

On March 1ST, 2009, flight TK1954, AMS-IST, already was OVERBOOKED with passengers left behind . . . while the wreckage of TK1951, IST-AMS a week earlier, still littered the countryside short of Runway-18R.

That gives you a clue about desperate travelers' mindset on safety. :{

To hell with safety and competent pilots, as long as we get the cheapest tickets and best service! :ugh: Turkey is and will never be in Europe!!! I would not even put my mother in law onboard one of their planes!

Turkey is and will never be in Europe!!!

That's a gem. It is but will never be, eh? :ugh:

Turkish Airlines is not the best managed airline by far, and their tactics regarding personnel and customers might not be something to call home about but as we say in Turkish "kill the brave man but give him his due" (giving credit where credit is due). They have been making bold steps and are certainly playing for the top spot now.

Turkey may not geographically be in Europe according to you but did you know that Iceland, closer to North America than Europe and definitely further away from Europe than Turkey is considered to be in Europe? :confused:

Or that certain organizations lump Israel into Europe but somehow this doesn't seem to ruffle as many feathers as Turkey being considered a European country?

Yes, we are not Arabs and we don't like to be called Arabs, similar to the Persians. I personally do not like it because I am not an Arab, and not because I have anything against Arabs. Historically and culturally there may be more negative reasons to why this is so in the general population but that is not and should not (please note correct usage :E) be the topic in an aviation forum. Similarly it is also not the place to put down a race of people. We are not Arabs, like Arabs are not Chinese, etc. Its just a fact, no need to attach any insults or biases to it.

You belong to a people that should be regarded as a reference in the Muslim world. Disregard anyone who compares you with an Arab. As a society there is a lot of room for improvement, mainly regarding social inequality and employer-worker relationship, here you are still many decades away from European standards.

THYTHY... well saight, nothing to add on that.

The day will come that audits looking in the overall performance of a Airline, then the relation is in the spotlight as well. Room to improve, I am sure.

Military mind have no room for that, national pride should, but lacks, the oversight as well. It will take a while until the whole society is up on everything. Asian side needs to accelerate over a century.

What I am saying? we clean the dirt on our doorstep first before we point onto others.

Fly safe and land happy

NG