BBMF Flypast

[Dengue_Dude]

Just watched the flypast of BBMF - dog**** weather and difficult for station keeping - well done guys, a real credit.

[robin]

Certainly looked hard work in nasty conditions. Well done

[OvertHawk]

Spare a thought for the lads at Coningsby who will be up all night drying them off after flying in the rain! :ok:

Nice job one and all! :D

OH

[WHBM]

Nicely done and a special thanks to those who flew down through rough weather.

King Airs in the Battle of Britain ? I must have missed that bit in the film, though.

[Dengue_Dude]

King Airs in the Battle of Britain ? I must have missed that bit in the film, though.

Probably the only things flying that had decent navkit . . .

Did look hard work and with an only-just cloud base.

[Sir George Cayley]

I think controlling the Amiable Barge was more a handful. :D

SGC

[TEEEJ]

WHBM,

The two King Airs were in the first element with the Dakota.

Element 1: Dakota + 2 King Air
Element 2: Lancaster + 4 Spitfires + Hurricane
Element 3: Red Arrows

Link to flypast diagram

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385723_10150938705619885_26035834884_9541092_177327741_n.jpg

Images at following link

Royal Air Force | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/royalairforce)

[Prangster]

Totally delighted that the Reds drew such an enthusiastic roar of approval from the crowd

[sevenstrokeroll]

Very nice of the UK and the Queen to pay tribute to fine American Built and designed airplanes in the first wave.

[Dengue_Dude]

Very nice of the UK and the Queen to pay tribute to fine American Built and designed airplanes in the first wave.

You have the correct name under your avatar . . . smacks of trolling to me.

Inappropriate in this thread thanks.

[insty66]

You have the correct name under your avatar

I looked at his username and all I saw was "stroker"http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/crackoff.gif

As always, an excellent job in less than excellent conditions:D

[ratty1]

Two nice bites there seven Well done.:D

[Mystic Greg]

Had a great view from a couple of miles west of the Palace. Brilliant flying by all concerned in tricky conditions. Well done, chaps!

[Wensleydale]

Very nice of the UK and the Queen to pay tribute to fine American Built and designed airplanes in the first wave


I always considered aeroplanes in front as a target! (Unless they were running away).:ok:

[goudie]

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[Nige321]

In cockpit footage here... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18334001):D

[207592]

Does anyone know who was crammed into the Lancaster's cockpit? From the commentary it sounded like at least one senior officer or civilian. The Flt Lt behind the pilot looked as though he had a job to do.

[WHBM]

I think this will only be here directly for one day, June 6, otherwise you have to Previous to get back to June 6

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[Motleycallsign]

Lads worked well at BBMF OH. Dak has just done a lovely "beat-up" (sorry Flypast) at Cranwell today.

[sisemen]

Well done to all in the flypast and to the guys lining the procession route. A credit to you all.

Her Majesty was obviously impressed with the BBMF mob - the cameras showed her pointing upwards and saying something along the lines of "That's the sound!".

What a shame though that a few more current types weren't in evidence. Still, I suppose it's a long way back to the Coronation Review of 1953.

The flypast included 640 aircraft.

[4mastacker]

King Airs in the Battle of Britain ? .........................There were two King Heirs on the balcony watching the flypast.

[pontifex]

The crew would have been Captain, co Pilot beside him with the flight engineer just behind him. The normal nav is standing behind the captain (normal practice). It is clear that there was also someone in the bomb aimers position - almost certainly another nav. What a sensible precaution given the very iffy weather. On normal deployments a number of ground crew are also present but they would not have been necessary on this occasion. Some may have wished to be there, however. And why not?

[Basil]

BBC framing of element 2 rather disappointing.

[mmitch]

I thought the 'head' in the bomb aimers position was an RAF photographer.
He leaned forward at the palace. I expect the 'mini cams' they use were operated from one position. Nice work.
mmitch.

[dazdaz1]

Please don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest HRH fan one could meet. I viewed the 'fly past' but in my gut, I felt there was something missing/lacking. I don't know how to put this prospectus in words, I'll try, RAF could have done better. I'm ready for flaming. The lack of a flypast lasting less than five minutes leaves something to be desired.

I presumed our helicopters (Thames Mil) could operate in all weathers? I don't want to turn aggressive to our fly boys, WTF if you lot can't do a flyby over the Thames in bad weather, what hope do we (UK) have you guys looking after the battle grounds where we are fighting now?

I'm sorry if I've offended, just my thoughts.

Daz

[India Four Two]

How appropriate. :) The video camera was on the PR XIX.

[Coochycool]

With you in spirit at least Daz

I thought the whole point of these things was to inspire a sense of pride

What, with no fast jets? Not even so much as HRH Wills' Sea King present.

Sad to say, but a tad lame

[Corporal Clott]

IIRC the Vulcan was originally going to be in this flypast? I know that they blew a couple of donks the other week, but was there anything else that stopped it being pencilled in? (apart from the money grabbing b@ggers that are running the Trust!).

CPL Clott

[ShyTorque]

It was scaled down a little from Her Majesty's first official flypast.....

CORONATION FLY-PAST - British Pathe (http://backup.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=31078)

[GeeRam]

IIRC the Vulcan was originally going to be in this flypast? I know that they blew a couple of donks the other week, but was there anything else that stopped it being pencilled in? (apart from the money grabbing b@ggers that are running the Trust!).

I'm not so sure it ever was 'going' to be in the flypast, I think it was never more than repeated heavy hints and a 'hope for inclusion'/invite noises eminating from the Trust, even before they wrecked two of the donks the other week....... ????

[johnfairr]

Just had my own fly-past. A Spitfire about 750' overhead my house in Farnham, heading North-West for the Odiham/Farnborough MATZ. Anyone got any more info. Looked like a later mark, maybe the PR XIX??

Wonderful sight - fantastic sound!!!

[TEEEJ]

dazdaz1 wrote

I presumed our helicopters (Thames Mil) could operate in all weathers? I don't want to turn aggressive to our fly boys, WTF if you lot can't do a flyby over the Thames in bad weather, what hope do we (UK) have you guys looking after the battle grounds where we are fighting now?

Seriously Daz? Are you referring to the Royal Navy flypast for the river Pageant? Are you seriously comparing operational missions to a peacetime flypast? The safety constraints are there for a reason. A tough choice but someone has to make that decision in regards to the weather and a formation over a populated area.

The Fleet Air Arm 'Diamond Nine' was cancelled.

Royal Navy Stage Spectacular Flypast for River Pageant Finale | Royal Navy (http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/News-and-Events/Latest-News/2012/May/31/120531-Royal-Navy-Stage-Spectacular-Flypast)

If the weather yesterday had been as poor as the day of the river pageant then the decision would have been made to cancel the flypast. See following for references to weather decisions.

Diamond Jubilee: Rain could force cancellation of RAF flypast planned as climax of weekend's celebrations - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/the_queens_diamond_jubilee/9310316/Diamond-Jubilee-Rain-could-force-cancellation-of-RAF-flypast-planned-as-climax-of-weekends-celebrations.html)

I thought that the flypast was just right and very fitting and well done to all involved. Look at all the hard work and effort that went into the main flypast the previous month with 70 plus aircraft.

RAF - Queen's Diamond Jubilee Tribute (http://www.raf.mod.uk/gallery/queen'sdiamondjubileetribute%20.cfm)

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/8D776794_5056_A318_A808136AE8198BD6.pdf

[airsound]

Vulcan was due to open the River Pageant by flying past The Spirit of Chartwell just before HM set off downriver.

It was ironic that, an hour or so after the double engine failure six days earlier, the CAA finally gave clearance for Vulcan to overfly London - something the team, with great support from the CAA, had been working towards for a very long time.

airsound

[500N]

airsound (or others)

Genuine question.

What is the difference in getting permission between the Vulcan and say the Lancaster or another older ex mil jet over flying London ?

Is it that it is low level, noise, not RAF owned and maintained ?

Thanks

[cessnapete]

Why do they need so many Navs to get a Lancaster to Buck House in 2012. Fit a GPS, RAIM check on my IFR approved GPS showed accuracy of less than 100 metres today!!

[airsound]

Basically, Vulcan's a civil aircraft on a permit to fly. Lanc is still a military aircraft.

Although she's always referred to as XH558, she actually has a civ reggie - G-VLCN

airsound

[Ali Barber]

When the Lanc did the flypast for the unveiling of the Bomber Harris statue, the nav was in the bomb aimers position with the London A to Z!

[500N]

"When the Lanc did the flypast for the unveiling of the Bomber Harris statue, the nav was in the bomb aimers position with the London A to Z!"


Isn't that (using a paper based map) called Period Authenticity ?:O

[Milo Minderbinder]

Would be more accurate than a Baedeker

[iRaven]

:p:p

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02240/060612-MATT-web_2240144a.jpg

[clicker]

I have a copy of the program for the coronation review which I had found on a bookstall for a pound or two many years ago.

Would loved to have seen the review but I was only one year old when it happened.

[tartare]

Watched it down here in `straya.
Can never get over the sound of Merlins en masse.
That deep bass roar that just says - `pure power'.
Lovely...

[MightyGem]

Some good sounds here tartare. Just click on the video window to open it in the Vimeo website.
http://vimeo.com/23208026

[tartare]

And for the ultimate POV click here (http://defensetech.org/2012/06/06/video-low-over-london-from-inside-a-lancaster-heavy-bomber/) and here

[brit bus driver]

Well, I watched it from The Mall with the mini-drivers & Mrs Driver. Short, but oh so sweet (the flypast that is...)

A real lump in the throat moment.

:ok:

[Courtney Mil]

It was a beautiful day here in Buckinghamshire yesterday, made especially good by a flypast at the RAF Finmere Officers' Mess by the C-47. Thank you guys. Please come again soon. Lots.

[Lima Juliet]

Courtney

Where is the Officers' Mess? I know where the old Watch Office and runways are at Finmere, but not the Mess. Or is that a codeword for the Red Lion pub?

LJ

[Courtney Mil]

You got it, LJ!!! :ok:

[BEagle]

Hmm, normally one whizzes past on the A421 Tingewick by-pass, as it's the last chance to overtake dawdling untermensch for miles; however, that looks like rather a top pub, Courtney!

The new road avoids disturbance to those quaffing at the pub:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/OMFinmere_zps542d5b4a.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/nw969/media/OMFinmere_zps542d5b4a.jpg.html)

Might have to pop in for a beer and a bite the next time I'm passing, methinks!

Where is the Officers' Mess?

According to the diagram on p142 of Action Stations 6, the 'communal site' was to the east of the aerodrome, so my guess is that the OM was probably about where the yellow marker is on this satellite map:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/OM2_zpse8cde67a.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/nw969/media/OM2_zpse8cde67a.jpg.html)

[Courtney Mil]

On the ground it could well be where the yellow pin is. Of course, you can't actually see the yellow pin from the ground, which rather surprised me. But the Red Lion is within easy striking distance and is a charming little watering hole. Highly recommended.:ok:

[Lima Juliet]

Thanks chaps, will also try the RL at some point. I nearly bought a house in Tingewick - I might regret my decision!

LJ

[Courtney Mil]

For reference, BEags, the RL isn't the PH marked on the map there. It's actually just south of the R in the village name. Worth booking for meals and checking openning times.

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[BEagle]

Spotted that, thanks Courtney! It looks very nice indeed.

Obviously it's been around for a while:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/OM3_zps5973044e.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/nw969/media/OM3_zps5973044e.jpg.html)

No, it's not my UAS local area map!